[Lnc-business] Primaries

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

I do not think I should be accused of something I explicitly disavowed.  Mr
Fishman will attest I talked to him about this TWO WEEKS AGO.  You are out
of line in that comment Mr. O’Donnell.

I obviously have an issue with it and whether anyone else does or not it is
a fair request that this be reviewed by the LNC.

On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 8:04 PM Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Mr Fishman's email asks the states for information, and relates that the
> decision on whether or not to host the primary is their decision. I agree
> with this, it is not an LNC decision whether or not state primaries should
> be held when that decision is left to the states.
>
> He provided information on the pros and cons, and reitterated that the
> decision is up to the states, and made no suggestion that LPHQ was pushing
> anyone in a particular direction.
>
> I have no problem with this, and feel like trying to find an issue with it
> is simply getting caught up in the drama of the primary related with hunts
> of the past week.
>
> As far as the tax funding of the primaries- its gonna happen anyways, the
> only difference is whether or not the LP takes a slice of the free media
> pie that comes with it.
>
> Justin O'Donnell
> LNC Region 8 Representative
>
> On Sep 26, 2019 9:56 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Thank you Mr. Fishman. I object to any hint that HQ views this favorably
> as
> you know as I did talk to you privately first and let you know I felt this
> needed to go through the LNC
>
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:55 PM Daniel Fishman <dan.fishman at lphq.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I sent this email to the state chairs list.
> >
> >
> >
> > I received the following message from Richard Winger:
> >
> > *I think we can have (a Presidential Primary) if we want in:  Arizona,
> > California, Delaware, DC, Idaho, Massachusetts, Missouri, Montana,
> > Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, South
> > Dakota, Utah, and West Virginia.*
>
> >
> > Of course a primary is not binding, we still nominate at the convention,
> > and delegates are never bound.
> >
> > On the other hand, a primary gets Libertarian Candidates and the
> > Libertarian Party significant coverage in the media in your state, and
> > almost certainly for your down ticket candidates too.
> >
> > I leave it up to you to decide what is best for your state. Please let
> > me know what you think.
> >
> > Also, can you please verify if you can or cannot have a primary in your
> > state and let me know.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Dan Fishman, Executive Director,  Libertarian Party
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 9:41 PM Joshua Smith via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I hope this is clarified immediately.
> >>
> >> On Sep 26, 2019 6:36 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would rather let Mr Fishman give his input.  Not trying to start a
> >> drama
> >> but just want everyone on the same page and aware.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:34 PM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Can you send me an example?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > John Phillips
> >> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > Cell 217-412-5973
> >> >
> >> > On Sep 26, 2019 8:25 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > To the state chairs, HQ is asking what states can choose primaries
> and
> >> > salting the soup in favor of choosing.
> >> >
> >> > To say I’m opposed to such a course is an understatement and
> something
> >> so
> >> > potentially against our principles (to some) should be an LNC
> decision.
> >> >
> >> > -Caryn Ann
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2019 at 7:23 PM John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I think I missed something, what is this?
> >> >
> >> > John Phillips
> >> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > Cell 217-412-5973
> >> >
> >> > On Sep 26, 2019 8:10 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I brought this up to Mr. Fishman privately and now to the LNC since
> it
> >> is
> >> > a
> >> > course we are going down.  I have severe objections to us encouraging
> >> > affiliates to choose a primary, and do not think this was a course
> that
> >> > should have been done without explicit LNC approval.
> >> >
> >> > *  In Liberty,*
> >> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> >> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> anyone
> >> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> >> faux
> >> > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
> >> *
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > *  In Liberty,*
> >> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> >> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> anyone
> >> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> >> faux
> >> > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
> >> *
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >>
> >> *  In Liberty,*
> >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> faux
> >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
> *
> >>
> >>
> >> --
>
> *  In Liberty,*
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.  *
>
>
> --

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *