[Lnc-business] Director of Development

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Mon Oct 28 12:26:26 EDT 2019


EVH.  We are not familiar and I request you stick to formalities.  You are
completely out of bounds and are no expert.  And telling someone to not
exercise their rights is also out of bounds.

I want no further interaction with you on this topic.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:49 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
wrote:

> Caryn Ann, as I stated in my reply to your private email back in July, one
> of my sons was diagnosed with an Autistic Spectrum Disorder in 4th grade.
> (I also have a nephew with moderate to severe autism)
>
> I've advocated on behalf of those with autism for decades.
>
> This exchange is happening because you reacted to someone pointing out
> that you were rude.   Yet, you persist with threats and accusations.
>
> If you seriously want guidance, and disregard fellow LNC members pointing
> out perceived rudeness, than perhaps the guidance you need is beyond our
> ability.  You may wish to seek guidance elsewhere.
>
> Meanwhile, please stop with the threats and accusations.
>
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>
>
> On 2019-10-28 11:31, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> I will be writing Ms. Sexton privately.
>
> At the risk of further ridicule, I have autism.  I am hyper aware that I
> can be unintentionally blunt.  My email signature is a request for help.
> The public bullying and shaming is abusive and if I were a statist,
> completely violative of my "civil rights."
>
> There is some serious education needed here about productive ways to deal
> with people with my disability.  EVH is completely over the top but Mr.
> Bishop-Henchman's consistent habit of reading the worst possible intent
> into things I say is completely prejudicial.  I've tried to talk to him
> privately about  it and he ignores every attempt.
>
> For anyone who cares to be understanding here is some education.
>
>
> https://www.crisisprevention.com/Blog/September-2012/Tips-for-Interacting-With-People-With-Autism
> Point number 4 is pertinent in all communication.  Number 8 is as well.
>
> https://nationalautismassociation.org/its-not-rude-its-autism/
> https://researchautism.org/ten-things-autism-isnt/
>
> I am not going to stand for this abuse.
>
> I AM NOT asking to be excused from perceived rudeness.  I am asking for
> the perfectly reasonable and ethical accommodation of guidance.
>
> And no this is not a threat but I have reached out to a disability
> advocate lawyer.  I WILL be treated with the human dignity I deserve.
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:14 AM Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> While I can certainly see where the comment directed at Alternate Sexton
>> crossed a line, I also think some of the response to it did as well.
>> "Fault" isnt always a one way street.
>>
>> To the matter at hand, after reading the most recent email from Mr.
>> Fishman I am not anymore comfortable with this current decision nor the
>> perceived circumstances surrounding this hire.
>>
>> Im disgusted by the recent chain of events and flabbergasted that I seem
>> to be in the minority in feeling so.
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2019 9:37 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Erin, I agree.  I would suggest though, that someone speak to our LNC
>> secretary about attacks on LNC members on this list.  If she hadn't gone
>> and lobbed rudeness at Paige Sexton, there would be no exchange.  I'm not
>> going to stand by why an LNC member does that, nor be silenced when it
>> happens.  This is a pattern, and the beginning has a source.
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>
>> On 2019-10-28 09:26, Erin Adams wrote:
>>
>> I would very much like to get back to the topic of this discussion and
>> perhaps handle personal disagreements in another email chain.
>> The personal back and forth above distracts from the very serious issue
>> at hand imo
>>
>> On Oct 28, 2019 3:13 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Take it to the proper channels.  Thank you.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <
>> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>
> --

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *



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