[Lnc-business] Director of Development

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

I want my post restored or reposted.  I do not consent to being censored
because someone else inadvertently posted private information.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *



On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:23 PM Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:

> To respond to Representative Longstreth, I am aware of one post by Mr.
> Fishman as well as one by myself and one by Secretary Harlos that because
> of posting order contained "reflections" of Mr. Fishmans post that ALL
> could have simply been edited to remove "sensitive" detail instead of total
> deletion. It is my belief that there were indeed others removed but I cant
> swear positively to that
>
> On Oct 28, 2019 11:07 PM, Richard Longstreth <richard.longstreth at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> I would like an explanation of what has been removed and why. I suspect it
> may have to do with content and legal areas but until that is confirmed, I
> also object to censoring the public record.
>
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>
> Sent from my Mobile Device
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 20:58 Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I want to go on record here that I am most definitely not okay with the
> direction delete posts vs editing out information that should not have been
> sent to the list to begin with being given.
>
> I object to that being done
>
> On Oct 28, 2019 10:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> If I ever fail in my duty point it out.  I failed in my duty to Mr.
> Hauptmann.  We have potential corruption and if it’s rude to demand that
> everyone take that seriously, then I will be rude AF.  I’m in region 1 and
> the immediate past representative.  I feel some duty to them and always
> will.  And I question every representative if they have proactively
> consulted their region.  And I will always do that.  And I honestly don’t
> care if anyone thinks that’s outside my lane.  I will always strive to word
> it diplomatically but it seems the offense is to the right to even ask the
> question, not the wording.  Too bad.  I’ll always question every regional
> representative.  Most certainly my own.
>
> Here is what I want.
>
> Unwind this.  Start over cleanly.
>
> Demand answers to previous questions.
>
> Is Mr. Fishman paid for CPAC planning?
>
> Why wasn’t his CPAC involvement disclosed?
>
> Why did Mr Fishman give a different public story than he said to Ms Adams
> about his “introduction” of Weld?
>
> Was Mr Sarwark offered a job by Weld, even if informally?
>
> And I’d like each LNC member to state their view (silence is a view) on Mr
> Sarwark’s open endorsement as party chair of Weld.
>
> That’s a start.
>
> And I want the truth about Lauren, but I doubt we will get that.
>
> I am asking the
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:17 PM Richard Longstreth <
> richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:
>
> As stated in my previous email, I am fine if we disagree with how I see
> things. Regardless, my question still is, what are the next steps? I have
> proposed a direction to go that would improve the party. What do you want
> to see done? Are you demanding someone's resignation? A censure? Please let
> me know. As to your wording Ina rude manner, you were rude. I'll get over
> it.
>
> This is not something anyone in the region has approached me about (this
> or other items we have discussed) and I always welcome input. My phone,
> email, and Facebook are all very public. I am happy to hear all thoughts
> and, in the absence of input, I try to be the best representative I can and
> work toward the betterment of our party. Complaining about the actions is
> one thing; trying to take a bad situation and turn it into something which
> helps the party is something else. Further, you have absolutely no right to
> imply that I am failing in representing my region and I would appreciate it
> if you stayed in your lane. I do not publicly allege that you are failing
> in some secretarial roles and when you do err, I recognize that mistakes
> happen. I believe I am owed the same courtesy.
>
> I ask again what action or result would you like this body to work toward?
> I've already shared my thoughts but am open to other viable ideas if you
> have them.
>
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>
> Sent from my Mobile Device
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019, 20:03 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Yep.
>
> And I don’t consent to my posts being deleted.  If some info needs to be
> scrubbed, repost the rest.
>
> This girl is done carrying water.
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:00 PM Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>
> > I am not inclined to just let this lay. Too many issues. I suggest that
> we
> > indeed start over and this time, do things properly and above board.
> >
> > I find it ironic that tonight I'll be the one to say Carry that water,
> yet
> > that is what Im saying
> >
> > On Oct 28, 2019 9:49 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > Mr Longstreth.  Enough is enough.  I have no more benefit of the doubt to
> > give.  This isn’t a matter of being 100%, it’s a matter of not even being
> > a
> > Party member.
> >
> > Our objections were clear.
> >
> > The intent of the policy manual is clear.
> >
> > The fact that we are intentionally blind-sided is clear.
> >
> > The fact she is not qualified - to me - is clear and to the numerous
> angry
> > member phone calls I’ve fielded is clear.
> >
> > The fact that smoke is being blown up my behind about a MA politico
> having
> > no ties to Weld (that’s impossible) is clear.
> >
> > The fact that this is just another in a long series of completely
> improper
> > entanglements never disclosed to the LNC is clear.
> >
> > Did we give authority to hire a co tractor that would require no
> approval?
> >
> > WE DO NOT PLANT LIBERTY SEEDS WITH OUR DONOR LIST.  This is not
> > evangelism.  I can’t believe I even have to say that.
> >
> > I’m second guessing remaining a donor at this point, and that’s pathetic.
> >
> > There’s been too much “oh well what’s done is done.”
> >
> > You know what’s done? My tolerance for this.
> >
> > And we’ve never received an answer to whether Mr Fishman was paid to plan
> > for COAC.  Why even an unpaid was never disclosed?  Either a disclosure
> or
> > denial that Mr Sarwark was offered - even if wink wink informally - a job
> > with Mr Weld prior to trying to get a paid position with the party funded
> > by unnamed donors.
> >
> > The cumulative case stinks and I’m done sweeping it under the rug.
> >
> > And - I’m trying to word this in a non-rude manner - I don’t think Region
> > 1
> > shares your sentiments.  Perhaps they do.  I’ve been out of the loop.  I
> > am
> > pretty sure that LPCO is not.  I am medium sure LPWA is not - the two
> > largest constituencies.
> >
> > Dan and Nick are not victims here.  And our questioning is not harassing
> > them.  It is doing our duty and it’s about time we all started doing it.
> >
> > We were not told the truth about Lauren.  Never forget that.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 8:02 PM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Too many threads out there. I'm going to break this down as simply as I
> > can
> > > and put it here and here only. I have feelings on all of this but if I
> > take
> > > a step back, here is how I am seeing things at this point. It is ok if
> > you
> > > disagree but let's figure out the next steps.
> > >
> > > 1) A contract was offered and was sent to the EPCC even though that
> part
> > of
> > > the PM deals with 'Directors'. The role in question was changed to a
> > > contracted director (read contractor) and so there is definitely some
> > grey
> > > as to how all of this should have been handled. I also note the lack of
> > > clear definitions. If the contract was required to be submitted, it did
> > not
> > > receive approval but if it was for a contractor, no approval needed.
> > News
> > > flash: our policy manual needs some work to fix and clarify these
> things
> > > for the future. Mr. O'Donnell had several suggestions at a previous
> > meeting
> > > and it may be worth revisiting them.
> > >
> > > 2) Our new DD is not 100% in line with our philosophies. I agree that
> > this
> > > is a concern, however, I would also note that very rarely does someone
> > > score a 10-10 on the Nolan quiz and we still welcome them into our
> folds
> > > and plant more liberty seeds along the way. The selected candidate
> meets
> > > all of the criteria that we voted on and approved, albeit, the feeling
> > of
> > > the room was clear, but it was not in our explicit direction. Do I wish
> > she
> > > was more libertarian, absolutely - I look forward to getting to know
> her
> > > more and find out where she disagrees with us and seeing if we can
> > change
> > > that. Until that time and given where we are at in the process, offer,
> > etc
> > > now, should we not utilize her skills and experience and trust in our
> > ED's
> > > selection and Chair's approval? Our only other option is to revoke the
> > > contract, pay her whatever severance fee and start over. I'm not over
> > the
> > > moon on that one.
> > >
> > > 3) So, where exactly do we go from here? Do we harass Dan until he says
> > he
> > > has done wrong? Resigns? Do we go after Oliver and Nick for approving?
> > Are
> > > we just raising flags to bring public attention and if so, what's the
> > > actual point unless you are campaigning (which is not the purpose of
> > this
> > > email list)? Do we demand the contract be cancelled and start the
> search
> > > over? All of these are options I suppose. Or, as a suggestion, we could
> > > recognize this opportunity to move our organization forward and ensure
> > that
> > > future LNCs have a clearer procedure and policy manual? First, I
> suggest
> > we
> > > let up and give the new DD a chance. Second, I propose we redirect this
> > > conversation to policy manual fixes and workshopping a hiring policy.
> > Off
> > > the top of my head, we need to clarify in a real way what the LNC
> should
> > be
> > > involved with at the very least - all hiring at an arbitrary line or,
> my
> > > suggestion, should we restrict the LNC to only be involved in
> employment
> > > matters concerning the ED and evaluating their performance?
> > >
> > > 4) I will say that thus far our discussion has not been largely
> > productive.
> > > What do we, as the governing body of the world's largest Libertarian
> > Party
> > > intend to do in an effort to ease the future growth and expansion of
> our
> > > Party? How can we use this to set an example for affiliate parties? I
> am
> > > happy to take part in any discussion that focuses on where we go.
> What's
> > > been done is done and as far as I can tell, nobody actually did
> anything
> > > wrong outside of optics and a very large grey area in our policy manual
> > was
> > > discovered. Let's figure out how to fix it.
> > >
> > > Richard Longstreth
> > > Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> > > Libertarian National Committee
> > > richard.longstreth at lp.org
> > > 931.538.9300
> > >
> > > Sent from my Mobile Device
> > >
> > --
> >
> > *In Liberty,*
> >
> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >
> >
> > --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
>