[Lnc-business] Director of Development

Tue Oct 29 10:38:31 EDT 2019

Thank you.  Mr Fishman, was is the he timing of that in relation to the
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On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 8:27 AM Justin O'Donnell <justin.odonnell at lp.org>
wrote:

> The date of that Podcast, and Larry's remarks, was October 7th.
>
> ---
> Yours in Liberty,
>
> Justin O'Donnell
> LNC Region 8 Representative
> Candidate for US Senate, NH
> www.justinodonnell.me
> www.odonnell2020.com
>
> Renew your membership today at https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod !
>
> On 2019-10-29 10:19, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> > What was the timing of that podcast?
> >
> > I’m aghast at how Mr. Chastain has been treated.  However, it’s
> > not fair to use an event after the fact as a reason for denial in
> > favour of a nonParty member without the requisite experience.
> >
> > And I’ll say it until I’m blue in the face.  We HAD a great DD and
> > did nothing to keep her.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 7:54 AM Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business
> > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm just curious, has Larry Sharpe apologized or walked back the
> >> comments he recently made on his "Sharpe Way " Podcast attacking
> >> some of
> >> the LNC's larger donors calling them out by name, and insulting
> >> them,
> >> calling them "bullies" and such because they wouldn't donate to his
> >> or
> >> Maj Toure's campaigns?
> >>
> >> Larry may have ran a great campaign, but I believe he's smart enough
> >> to
> >> not have publicly trashed our donors if he actually wanted the
> >> position
> >> as Development Director, as opposed to pitching to redefine the
> >> position's scope to include public appearances that would utilize
> >> Party
> >> Resources to promote Larry Sharpe.
> >>
> >> Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Larry, and think he largely does
> >> great
> >> work for the movement, but publicly insulting LNC Donors is
> >> something he
> >> shouldn't have done if he wanted to give the impression that He
> >> would
> >> have been a good fit for this position.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Yours in Liberty,
> >>
> >> Justin O'Donnell
> >> LNC Region 8 Representative
> >> Candidate for US Senate, NH
> >> www.justinodonnell.me [1]
> >> www.odonnell2020.com [2]
> >>
> >> Renew your membership today at https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod
> >> !
> >>
> >> On 2019-10-28 12:31, Joshua Smith via Lnc-business wrote:
> >>> I find it hard to believe that you were worried that someone who
> >> quite
> >>> literally trains C level executives as his profession would not
> >>> understand the nuts and bolts of development and team building. Or
> >>> fundraising for that matter. Especially considering the amount of
> >>> money he was able to raise in his race. Much of which came
> >> directly
> >>> from his face to face time with donors.
> >>>
> >>> Larry was able to train tons of people to be better campaign
> >>> volunteers, and amassed quite an amazing team during his
> >> Gubernatorial
> >>> campaign.
> >>>
> >>> He is a born leader with a huge national following and donors on
> >> speed
> >>> dial.
> >>>
> >>> I am very upset to hear that he was passed over for someone that
> >>> hasn't put any time in to building our party, or building
> >>> relationships with our donors.
> >>>
> >>> I agree that this needs to have time on the schedule for the LNC
> >>> meeting.
> >>>
> >>> -Joshua
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 28, 2019 9:26 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> >>> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> EVH.  We are not familiar and I request you stick to formalities.
> >>>> You are
> >>>> completely out of bounds and are no expert.  And telling someone
> >> to
> >>>> not
> >>>> exercise their rights is also out of bounds.
> >>>>
> >>>> I want no further interaction with you on this topic.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:49 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>> <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Caryn Ann, as I stated in my reply to your private email back in
> >>>> July, one
> >>>>> of my sons was diagnosed with an Autistic Spectrum Disorder in
> >> 4th
> >>>> grade.
> >>>>> (I also have a nephew with moderate to severe autism)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've advocated on behalf of those with autism for decades.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This exchange is happening because you reacted to someone
> >> pointing
> >>>> out
> >>>>> that you were rude.   Yet, you persist with threats and
> >>>> accusations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you seriously want guidance, and disregard fellow LNC members
> >>>> pointing
> >>>>> out perceived rudeness, than perhaps the guidance you need is
> >>>> beyond our
> >>>>> ability.  You may wish to seek guidance elsewhere.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Meanwhile, please stop with the threats and accusations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---
> >>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2019-10-28 11:31, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will be writing Ms. Sexton privately.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At the risk of further ridicule, I have autism.  I am hyper
> >> aware
> >>>> that I
> >>>>> can be unintentionally blunt.  My email signature is a request
> >> for
> >>>> help.
> >>>>> The public bullying and shaming is abusive and if I were a
> >>>> statist,
> >>>>> completely violative of my "civil rights."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is some serious education needed here about productive
> >> ways
> >>>> to deal
> >>>>> with people with my disability.  EVH is completely over the top
> >>>> but Mr.
> >>>>> Bishop-Henchman's consistent habit of reading the worst possible
> >>>> intent
> >>>>> into things I say is completely prejudicial.  I've tried to talk
> >>>> to him
> >>>>> privately about  it and he ignores every attempt.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For anyone who cares to be understanding here is some education.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> https://www.crisisprevention.com/Blog/September-2012/Tips-for-Interacting-With-People-With-Autism
> >>>>> Point number 4 is pertinent in all communication.  Number 8 is
> >> as
> >>>> well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://nationalautismassociation.org/its-not-rude-its-autism/
> >>>>> https://researchautism.org/ten-things-autism-isnt/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am not going to stand for this abuse.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I AM NOT asking to be excused from perceived rudeness.  I am
> >>>> asking for
> >>>>> the perfectly reasonable and ethical accommodation of guidance.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And no this is not a threat but I have reached out to a
> >>>> disability
> >>>>> advocate lawyer.  I WILL be treated with the human dignity I
> >>>> deserve.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:14 AM Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> While I can certainly see where the comment directed at
> >> Alternate
> >>>> Sexton
> >>>>>> crossed a line, I also think some of the response to it did as
> >>>> well.
> >>>>>> "Fault" isnt always a one way street.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> To the matter at hand, after reading the most recent email from
> >>>> Mr.
> >>>>>> Fishman I am not anymore comfortable with this current decision
> >>>> nor the
> >>>>>> perceived circumstances surrounding this hire.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Im disgusted by the recent chain of events and flabbergasted
> >> that
> >>>> I seem
> >>>>>> to be in the minority in feeling so.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 28, 2019 9:37 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>> <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Erin, I agree.  I would suggest though, that someone speak to
> >> our
> >>>> LNC
> >>>>>> secretary about attacks on LNC members on this list.  If she
> >>>> hadn't gone
> >>>>>> and lobbed rudeness at Paige Sexton, there would be no
> >> exchange.
> >>>> I'm not
> >>>>>> going to stand by why an LNC member does that, nor be silenced
> >>>> when it
> >>>>>> happens.  This is a pattern, and the beginning has a source.
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2019-10-28 09:26, Erin Adams wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I would very much like to get back to the topic of this
> >>>> discussion and
> >>>>>> perhaps handle personal disagreements in another email chain.
> >>>>>> The personal back and forth above distracts from the very
> >> serious
> >>>> issue
> >>>>>> at hand imo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 28, 2019 3:13 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Take it to the proper channels.  Thank you.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <
> >>>>>> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>
> >>>> *In Liberty,*
> >>>>
> >>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >>>> Syndrome
> >>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >>>> anyone
> >>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> >> social
> >>>> faux
> >>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >  --
> >
> > IN LIBERTY,
> >
> > __
> >
> > _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> > social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
> >
> >
> >
> > Links:
> > ------
> > [1] http://www.justinodonnell.me
> > [2] http://www.odonnell2020.com
>
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*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *