[Lnc-business] Director of Development

Tue Oct 29 15:41:49 EDT 2019

Did either of you contact the Executive Director to ask for a copy of the
proposed contract? If not, I would recommend that procedure.

Yours truly,
Nick

On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 3:20 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I am noticing that there is selective ignoring of requests.
>
> I will remind the ED and Chair that playing favorites on requests is beyond
> inappropriate.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:46 PM Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>
> > Again I want to go on record as objecting to deletions of posts here and
> > enter a new objection about the thread being made private from our
> members
> >
> > On Oct 29, 2019 10:42 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thank you.  Then that is irrelevant to this issue at that time.  It may
> > explain why Larry did something so out of character.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 9:25 AM Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > I can answer that ish. I dont have exact dates in front of me however I
> > was party to the early attempt to reach out to Mr
> >  Sharpe concerning this position by Mr. Smith. I had been told quite some
> > time BEFORE the podcast that conversation concerning this position
> between
> > Mr. Fishman and Mr. Sharpe had not been fruitful, that Mr. Fishman made
> the
> > job seem "unappealing"
> >
> > On Oct 29, 2019 9:38 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you.  Mr Fishman, was is the he timing of that in relation to the
> > determination this would not work out.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 8:27 AM Justin O'Donnell <justin.odonnell at lp.org
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The date of that Podcast, and Larry's remarks, was October 7th.
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Yours in Liberty,
> > >
> > > Justin O'Donnell
> > > LNC Region 8 Representative
> > > Candidate for US Senate, NH
> > > www.justinodonnell.me
> > > www.odonnell2020.com
> > >
> > > Renew your membership today at https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod !
> > >
> > > On 2019-10-29 10:19, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> > > > What was the timing of that podcast?
> > > >
> > > > I’m aghast at how Mr. Chastain has been treated.  However, it’s
> > > > not fair to use an event after the fact as a reason for denial in
> > > > favour of a nonParty member without the requisite experience.
> > > >
> > > > And I’ll say it until I’m blue in the face.  We HAD a great DD and
> > > > did nothing to keep her.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 7:54 AM Justin O'Donnell via Lnc-business
> > > > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I'm just curious, has Larry Sharpe apologized or walked back the
> > > >> comments he recently made on his "Sharpe Way " Podcast attacking
> > > >> some of
> > > >> the LNC's larger donors calling them out by name, and insulting
> > > >> them,
> > > >> calling them "bullies" and such because they wouldn't donate to his
> > > >> or
> > > >> Maj Toure's campaigns?
> > > >>
> > > >> Larry may have ran a great campaign, but I believe he's smart enough
> > > >> to
> > > >> not have publicly trashed our donors if he actually wanted the
> > > >> position
> > > >> as Development Director, as opposed to pitching to redefine the
> > > >> position's scope to include public appearances that would utilize
> > > >> Party
> > > >> Resources to promote Larry Sharpe.
> > > >>
> > > >> Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of Larry, and think he largely does
> > > >> great
> > > >> work for the movement, but publicly insulting LNC Donors is
> > > >> something he
> > > >> shouldn't have done if he wanted to give the impression that He
> > > >> would
> > > >> have been a good fit for this position.
> > > >>
> > > >> ---
> > > >> Yours in Liberty,
> > > >>
> > > >> Justin O'Donnell
> > > >> LNC Region 8 Representative
> > > >> Candidate for US Senate, NH
> > > >> www.justinodonnell.me [1]
> > > >> www.odonnell2020.com [2]
> > > >>
> > > >> Renew your membership today at
> https://www.lp.org/wethepeople/?f=jod
> > > >> !
> > > >>
> > > >> On 2019-10-28 12:31, Joshua Smith via Lnc-business wrote:
> > > >>> I find it hard to believe that you were worried that someone who
> > > >> quite
> > > >>> literally trains C level executives as his profession would not
> > > >>> understand the nuts and bolts of development and team building. Or
> > > >>> fundraising for that matter. Especially considering the amount of
> > > >>> money he was able to raise in his race. Much of which came
> > > >> directly
> > > >>> from his face to face time with donors.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Larry was able to train tons of people to be better campaign
> > > >>> volunteers, and amassed quite an amazing team during his
> > > >> Gubernatorial
> > > >>> campaign.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> He is a born leader with a huge national following and donors on
> > > >> speed
> > > >>> dial.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I am very upset to hear that he was passed over for someone that
> > > >>> hasn't put any time in to building our party, or building
> > > >>> relationships with our donors.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I agree that this needs to have time on the schedule for the LNC
> > > >>> meeting.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Joshua
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Oct 28, 2019 9:26 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> > > >>> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> EVH.  We are not familiar and I request you stick to formalities.
> > > >>>> You are
> > > >>>> completely out of bounds and are no expert.  And telling someone
> > > >> to
> > > >>>> not
> > > >>>> exercise their rights is also out of bounds.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I want no further interaction with you on this topic.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:49 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
> > > >>>> <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Caryn Ann, as I stated in my reply to your private email back in
> > > >>>> July, one
> > > >>>>> of my sons was diagnosed with an Autistic Spectrum Disorder in
> > > >> 4th
> > > >>>> grade.
> > > >>>>> (I also have a nephew with moderate to severe autism)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I've advocated on behalf of those with autism for decades.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> This exchange is happening because you reacted to someone
> > > >> pointing
> > > >>>> out
> > > >>>>> that you were rude.   Yet, you persist with threats and
> > > >>>> accusations.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> If you seriously want guidance, and disregard fellow LNC members
> > > >>>> pointing
> > > >>>>> out perceived rudeness, than perhaps the guidance you need is
> > > >>>> beyond our
> > > >>>>> ability.  You may wish to seek guidance elsewhere.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Meanwhile, please stop with the threats and accusations.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> ---
> > > >>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
> > > >>>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On 2019-10-28 11:31, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I will be writing Ms. Sexton privately.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> At the risk of further ridicule, I have autism.  I am hyper
> > > >> aware
> > > >>>> that I
> > > >>>>> can be unintentionally blunt.  My email signature is a request
> > > >> for
> > > >>>> help.
> > > >>>>> The public bullying and shaming is abusive and if I were a
> > > >>>> statist,
> > > >>>>> completely violative of my "civil rights."
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> There is some serious education needed here about productive
> > > >> ways
> > > >>>> to deal
> > > >>>>> with people with my disability.  EVH is completely over the top
> > > >>>> but Mr.
> > > >>>>> Bishop-Henchman's consistent habit of reading the worst possible
> > > >>>> intent
> > > >>>>> into things I say is completely prejudicial.  I've tried to talk
> > > >>>> to him
> > > >>>>> privately about  it and he ignores every attempt.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> For anyone who cares to be understanding here is some education.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.crisisprevention.com/Blog/September-2012/Tips-for-Interacting-With-People-With-Autism
> > > >>>>> Point number 4 is pertinent in all communication.  Number 8 is
> > > >> as
> > > >>>> well.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> https://nationalautismassociation.org/its-not-rude-its-autism/
> > > >>>>> https://researchautism.org/ten-things-autism-isnt/
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I am not going to stand for this abuse.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I AM NOT asking to be excused from perceived rudeness.  I am
> > > >>>> asking for
> > > >>>>> the perfectly reasonable and ethical accommodation of guidance.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> And no this is not a threat but I have reached out to a
> > > >>>> disability
> > > >>>>> advocate lawyer.  I WILL be treated with the human dignity I
> > > >>>> deserve.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 9:14 AM Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org>
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> While I can certainly see where the comment directed at
> > > >> Alternate
> > > >>>> Sexton
> > > >>>>>> crossed a line, I also think some of the response to it did as
> > > >>>> well.
> > > >>>>>> "Fault" isnt always a one way street.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> To the matter at hand, after reading the most recent email from
> > > >>>> Mr.
> > > >>>>>> Fishman I am not anymore comfortable with this current decision
> > > >>>> nor the
> > > >>>>>> perceived circumstances surrounding this hire.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Im disgusted by the recent chain of events and flabbergasted
> > > >> that
> > > >>>> I seem
> > > >>>>>> to be in the minority in feeling so.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Oct 28, 2019 9:37 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn
> > > >>>> <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Erin, I agree.  I would suggest though, that someone speak to
> > > >> our
> > > >>>> LNC
> > > >>>>>> secretary about attacks on LNC members on this list.  If she
> > > >>>> hadn't gone
> > > >>>>>> and lobbed rudeness at Paige Sexton, there would be no
> > > >> exchange.
> > > >>>> I'm not
> > > >>>>>> going to stand by why an LNC member does that, nor be silenced
> > > >>>> when it
> > > >>>>>> happens.  This is a pattern, and the beginning has a source.
> > > >>>>>> ---
> > > >>>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
> > > >>>>>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On 2019-10-28 09:26, Erin Adams wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I would very much like to get back to the topic of this
> > > >>>> discussion and
> > > >>>>>> perhaps handle personal disagreements in another email chain.
> > > >>>>>> The personal back and forth above distracts from the very
> > > >> serious
> > > >>>> issue
> > > >>>>>> at hand imo
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Oct 28, 2019 3:13 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > > >>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Take it to the proper channels.  Thank you.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:58 AM Elizabeth Van Horn <
> > > >>>>>> elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> *In Liberty,*
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> > > >>>> Syndrome
> > > >>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > >>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > > >>>> anyone
> > > >>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> > > >> social
> > > >>>> faux
> > > >>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> > > >  --
> > > >
> > > > IN LIBERTY,
> > > >
> > > > __
> > > >
> > > > _ PERSONAL NOTE:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> > > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > > > anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> > > > social faux pas), please contact me privately and let me know. _
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Links:
> > > > ------
> > > > [1] http://www.justinodonnell.me
> > > > [2] http://www.odonnell2020.com
> > >
> > --
> >
> > *In Liberty,*
> >
> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > *In Liberty,*
> >
> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >
> >
> > --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>