[Lnc-business] correcting a Facebook falsehood

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

I apologize I hit send by fat thumb before a concluding statement.

I will get this out here since Mr Craig has seen fit to slander me.  The
auto-approval procedure is not a deadline to produce minutes.  It is a
deadline to take advantage of auto-approval.  Any suggestion that I do not
produce minutes timely is gross.  I spend at least 40 hours in preparing
then.  I will stand by my position any day that MOST people do not have an
extra forty hours in the three weeks following a meeting.  Ms Mattson did
and I have nothing but abject respect to her but that is unusual and is not
necessary.

We are all highly competent individuals. The delegates chose us.  It is an
insult to them to try to prove otherwise.  Competent isn’t perfection.

There is absolutely no one who can say with a straight face that they
suffered some harm due to an extra week past auto approval. The only place
such pettiness belongs is in the Rs and Ds.  Not here.

I sure hope that isn’t a sign of grossness to come next convention.  Be
that as it may, I will never denigrate Ms. Mattson’s utter competence at
the highest levels.

On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:19 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> I disagree.  But I’m not going to bicker with you.  You never not have an
> objection and that is fully your prerogative.  I don’t begrudge it to you.
>
> The bigger problem here is gossiping with Andy Craig rather than coming to
> me directly in the first place.  None of that conversation would be
> necessary if Mr. Craig is telling the truth about gossipy LNC members.
>
> You may have the last word.  Carrying on FB debates on the LNC list is
> fantastically inappropriate.  I will not carry on here further.
>
> I think everyone would agree that if anyone has a complaint with anyone
> else it should be well known and discussed here, not whispered to Mr. Craig
> or anyone else.
>
> I had a huge issue with the delay in getting me needed documents for one
> thing.
>
> I said it directly to you.  I actually don’t believe Mr. Craig.  I don’t
> believe that any LNC member is the type of person that would gossip without
> talking directly to the person.
>
> If my faith is misplaced, then I would suggest said gossipers behave like
> an adult.
>
> I have absolutely nothing but respect for you Ms. Mattson and that has
> only increased over time.  You have a phenomenal mind.
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 3:18 AM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> I do not know why I am unable to comment on Ms. Harlos' Facebook page, but
>> since the subject matter is about what allegedly does or doesn't happen on
>> this list, I am going to say something here to defend myself.
>>
>> Yesterday, Ms. Harlos told her Facebook readers that when it comes to LNC
>> minutes, "Further, Ms. Mattson always objects so there is never any chance
>> for auto-approval. She objects because she disagrees with my style. That
>> is
>> her prerogative but the LNC already voted that my style was acceptable so
>> hers is a protest vote that makes it impossible to use the auto-approval.
>> Didn't know that did you?"
>>
>> That is demonstrably false, and I don't know why she would say such a
>> thing.
>>
>> This term I am only aware of ONE TIME that I objected so as to prevent
>> auto-approval of the minutes until the LNC could vote on a potential
>> amendment, and that was for the 7/3/18 minutes.  Yet in a public forum
>> this
>> one time was falsely portrayed as "always" so that there is allegedly
>> "never any chance" for auto-approval.  The other times that auto-approval
>> has not been used this term, it has been because the drafts were not
>> provided by the required dates to be eligible for auto-approval.
>>
>> Just want to clear that up.
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
> --

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *