[Lnc-business] Secretary''s Report

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Ms.  Mattson you once again mischaracterize.  And once again take shots
that are unworthy.  I will not respond in kind.  You know fully well I know
how to use advanced word and functional excel.

This is the most explanation you have ever given.

I’m on the road.  Will read carefully more when I get home.

But back to your assertion about needing the 2020 census- were you mistaken
there?  I was waiting for your response before submitting V2.

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 6:36 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> <CAH> You send forms with zero information - merely "attached" - and expect
> me to a mind reader. I asked for all forms USED at the 208 convention.  Not
> just templates. [...]  You gave me four forms absent of even bare context
> or explanation.  That is functionally nothing when it comes to the
> complexity of the entire convention, and you know that.</CAH>
>
> Caryn Ann, you seem to be making a lot of mistaken presumptions about how
> you imagine that I operate.  Then based on those mistaken presumptions, you
> accuse me of withholding the mystery other things.  I do not have a
> programmed user interface for "enter the name of candidate 1" which then
> spits out finished products when I hit the big red button.  It's just a lot
> of manual work starting from basic templates.
>
> Yes, I really start with that one-page ballot/tally sheet template for
> every single round of voting.  Then I use Microsoft Word to generate the 51
> affiliate sheets from that page.  The 51 sheets I generate for each voting
> round from that template only need exist briefly while I print them for
> that election.  Once the election is over, there is no need to keep 51
> blank forms.  I roll back to the template for the next vote.  The important
> thing is the data submitted back to me by the chairs.  I'm not going to
> take the template and reconstruct the blanks for each round of voting from
> past conventions.  Having the 51 sheets per voting round provides you no
> particular value because the candidates next time will not be the same.
>
> Nobody gave me an LNC Convention Secretary for Dummies training manual, and
> I didn't write one, either.  At least you're now having to acknowledge that
> I did give you forms which you told many people I had not given you.  Then
> it was complaining about the timing.  Now it's that I didn't write a
> training manual to go with them.  You phrase it as asking me to be helpful,
> but it feels like a setup for you to try to blame me if anything goes wrong
> because I didn't train you well enough.  If the issue is that you need
> additional training for how to do various tasks with word processors and
> spreadsheets, there are plenty of online options to get up to speed before
> the convention.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > Ms. Mattson - it is not reasonable whatsoever to claim that the document
> > used to inform members of delegate allocations and region formation is
> your
> > personal project.  While I disagree with you on the delegation chair
> > manual, I choose the battles worth fighting for.  However, the other
> manual
> > is completely unreasonable and I repeat my request for that word copy.
> > Alternatively, please send me whatever you used to notify the chairs of
> > their delegate allocations.  Your position on those documents stretches
> > credulity. Well, nevertheless, that tradition ends with me.  Whatever I
> > produce under colour of my position belongs to the Party not me.
> >
> > And you missed the point - I have always been more than willing to work
> > with your timeframe.  All you had to do was respond and say hey, get with
> > me after X.  You unprofessionally ignored all requests until the chair
> > asked you to respond.
> >
> > You send forms with zero information - merely "attached" - and expect me
> to
> > a mind reader. I asked for all forms USED at the 208 convention.  Not
> just
> > templates. It is not at all good institutional form for those to exist
> only
> > in your private records.  Same with all of the excel spreadsheets.
> >
> > You gave me four forms absent of even bare context or explanation.  That
> is
> > functionally nothing when it comes to the complexity of the entire
> > convention, and you know that.  You have expended great effort to be as
> > unhelpful as possible.  You have given zero information on the logistical
> > organization of the procedures.  That is not the actions of someone
> putting
> > the organization first.  And ignored every email until the chair had to
> ask
> > you to merely respond.  And what was being requested did not require you
> to
> > stop anything for any amount of time but to attach your folder of
> records.
> > I do not have to justify to you why I would have liked those records
> > earlier.  And this further exemplifies why they should never have been
> > merely in one person's private possession.
> >
> > If you are satisfied with the very unprofessional and grudging way you
> > handled the inevitable fact of succession, that is on you. I maintain
> that
> > it is not the way the third largest political party should operate and
> is a
> > very poor legacy of your otherwise excellent terms of service in that
> > capacity.
> >
> > So in addition to the request for the delegate allocation manual, I ask
> > once again that you please turn over your records for the 2018 convention
> > that remain in your possession.  The same request could and should be
> made
> > for the 2016 convention as well.  If the LNC wishes to ratify the idea
> that
> > these records are private possessions that is their prerogative.  Until
> > such time as they do, I will continue to request them, not to merely make
> > them my private possession but to deposit them into an archive created
> for
> > secretarial records by Mr. Fishman.  I can imagine the sneers we would
> give
> > if we heard that the two old party convention records were treated in
> such
> > a manner.  It is a system that sets itself up for wrongdoing in the
> future
> > by bad actors I suspect may have unknown legal ramifications,
> particularly
> > in regards to any officer E&O policy.
> >
> > Despite this unfortunate decision to behave in this manner, I still
> > maintain your work and abilities in the highest regard.  Many members
> have
> > asked me why when it is obvious you only hold me in contempt.  My
> response
> > is that I don't require reciprocation for respect well-earned.  It is
> easy
> > to only respect those who are kind to you.
> >
> >
> > *In Liberty,*
> >
> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:27 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > > <CAH> ...attached is an additional form that was used that she has not
> > > given me.</CAH>
> > >
> > > You attached a file named "2018 LNC At-Large Tally Sheets" which is
> > merely
> > > a product created with the form that I sent to you on Sept 4, 2018
> titled
> > > "Sample Election Tally Sheet."  What I sent you is a template.  If you
> > > choose to use it, during the convention you will need to edit the text
> to
> > > remove the placeholder candidate names such as "Justin Tyme" and "Pete
> > > Zerria" and instead insert the actual names of each of the nominated
> > > candidates.  If there are many candidates, perhaps you will choose to
> do
> > as
> > > I did in the attached example and make two columns of candidate names
> to
> > > fit it on one sheet.  Depending on the number of candidates nominated,
> > > spacing on the sheet may need to be adjusted, so each iteration at
> > > convention may vary slightly to match unique conditions of that
> election,
> > > though they come from the same template.  But yes, the file you
> attached
> > > with a claim that I didn't give you that form was created from the
> > template
> > > that I sent you long ago.  It is a simple form, and even if I had not
> > long
> > > ago provided you the Word document, it would take a person only about
> 10
> > > minutes to make a new one from scratch...much less time than you spent
> > > writing your latest message.
> > >
> > > <CAH>However, Ms. Mattson keeps ignoring that the delegation chair
> manual
> > > is NOT THE ONLY MANUAL I requested or that exists.  Attached is the
> > > Delegate Allocation and Region formation manual.</CAH>
> > >
> > > That is merely a subset of the Delegation Chairs Manual which we have
> > > already discussed.  The reason that Bob Sullentrup handed his version
> > over
> > > to me in 2010 was that he wasn't just retiring from an officer
> position,
> > > but he was ending his involvement in party activities and wanted
> someone
> > > staying in the party to be able to use it.  So he gave it to me.  I
> have
> > > significantly built upon the original concept over time and added
> quite a
> > > bit of my own material to it.
> > >
> > > <CAH>... I will give evidence as to why I have the justified position
> > that
> > > you have been less than helpful</CAH>
> > >
> > > Interesting attempt to try to change the subject, but no, this
> discussion
> > > was not about your opinion that I should have done things on a
> different
> > > timeline.  It's about your false accusations that I have not given you
> > > certain forms which I have given you.  And you have taken it further on
> > > Facebook, at times saying I gave you "nothing" though here you've had
> to
> > > acknowledge that I have given you many things.
> > >
> > > Anyway, thanks for pointing out how unreasonable you were with me
> > following
> > > the convention.  The convention adjourned on July 3, but the Judicial
> > > Committee tellers were working until late that night to get those
> results
> > > tabulated.  I spent July 4 traveling home and getting some catch-up
> rest.
> > > On July 5 you started your demands for immediate handover of records I
> > had
> > > not yet had time to update from the convention, and many of those were
> by
> > > no means things that were immediately needed.  In your selective
> listing
> > of
> > > communications about this subject you completely ignore my comments on
> > the
> > > LNC email list cautioning the LNC about the many, many time-consuming
> > tasks
> > > I needed to do after the convention, and promising that I would
> > prioritize
> > > them and get them done in a reasonable time frame.  Yet you decided it
> > was
> > > a good idea to nag me about things you wouldn't need for two years
> while
> > I
> > > was trying to complete more timely tasks with deadlines.  It's no
> > different
> > > than mothers ignoring the kid saying, "Mom...mom...mom...mom..mom..."
> > >
> > > Producing national convention minutes takes orders of magnitude more
> time
> > > than producing weekend LNC minutes, but I couldn't even do them until I
> > > completed tasks like updating the bylaws, the platform, audits of
> > > elections, etc.  Even harder in 2018 when you were burning my time by
> > > flinging pubic accusations at me based on your disappointment in the
> > > at-large election results.  It took me until August 31 to finish the
> > first
> > > draft of convention minutes (barely ahead of the 60-day deadline), and
> > just
> > > a few days later (Sept 4) I gave more attention to your requests for
> > forms
> > > that you wouldn't need until 2020.
> > >
> > > It was a perfectly reasonable time frame considering the typical
> > > post-convention work load a secretary has.  And your opinions that I
> > should
> > > have done it sooner have nothing to do with what you wrote about me in
> > the
> > > secretary's report.
> > >
> > > -Alicia
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 3:43 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> > caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ms. Mattson,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have now carefully read your response.  I do not think you will
> read
> > > > that in future and be proud of that nor do I think objective members
> > will
> > > > receive it without reading a good bit of sour grapes.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is a fact that getting any information from you during the
> > transition
> > > > was worse than pulling teeth.  In fact, I had to ask the chair to
> > > intervene
> > > > as you simply ignored my requests, a practice which continued to the
> > > extent
> > > > that I routinely gave up on asking you.  My concern in this whole
> > matter
> > > is
> > > > not ultimately you or me, it is our complete lack of procedures for
> > > > position transitions.  Everyone is well aware of this concern as I
> > > brought
> > > > it up as a potential policy manual amendment which was tabled to
> > > > wordsmith.  There should be zero documents that are used for party
> > > business
> > > > that are kept solely on the personal computers of one person.  As I
> > > stated
> > > > in my last email, I do not NEED you to provide anything further.
> Just
> > > like
> > > > you had to admirably pick up pieces from a prior secretary that left
> > > > incomplete work product, I CAN do it even if you never sent me a
> single
> > > > piece of information.  It is just that I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO.  I do not
> > > > believe that any reasonable person will disagree that for secretary
> and
> > > > treasurer there should be an archive of records that are immediately
> > > > transferred to successors.  To claim that I can hunt and find things
> in
> > > > other ways is not the point. *The point is that I should not have
> > to.*  I
> > > > think in any other situation, you would agree with the above.  I have
> > > > always taken care to respect your work product and ethic.  However,
> it
> > is
> > > > patently obvious that you have done the absolute minimum to provide
> any
> > > > kind of mentorship.  Yes, I think that is an institutional problem.
> > And
> > > no
> > > > matter who is my successor, if they have not been national secretary
> > > > before, I will bend over backwards to assist them.  I will give them
> > > items
> > > > and direction before they ask, because being ignorant, they might not
> > > even
> > > > know to ask.  But rest assured, I need no scapegoat.   I will handle
> it
> > > and
> > > > handle it well.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All of us need to have the mindset of putting the organization first
> > and
> > > > setting up our successors for success.  I do not wish to sully a
> > > compliment
> > > > of another LNC member in the midst of a less positive exchange, so no
> > > names
> > > > will be added but the way you handle issues, suggestions, and
> > corrections
> > > > is in marked contrast to another well-respected and long-term LNC
> > member
> > > > who contacts me personally, anticipates future difficulties as they
> > have
> > > > been through them, and provides proactive mentorship.  Contrarywise,
> > you
> > > > routinely ignore private requests made to you and are sure to make a
> > > public
> > > > spectacle out of anything you perceive to amiss.  That is your
> > > > prerogative.  And it is my prerogative to think it is unprofessional
> > and
> > > > petty.  I have chosen to take it as a trial by fire through which
> gold
> > > will
> > > > emerge.  As I have always held you to be one of the best secretaries
> I
> > > have
> > > > ever worked with, any input you give will help, regardless of the
> > manner
> > > it
> > > > is given or whether it was given in a spirit of amity or animus.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So with regret, since you are determined to create a scenario where I
> > am
> > > > looking for a scapegoat (that is not my style nor my competence
> > level), I
> > > > will give evidence as to why I have the justified position that you
> > have
> > > > been less than helpful and still have items that need to be turned
> > > over.  I
> > > > have print-outs of these emails that I will bring to the next
> meeting.
> > > >   Other exchanges were made personally at meetings, and I do not walk
> > > > around with a personal voice recorder to spy on everyone.  (if this
> > chart
> > > > comes through garbled to anyone who wants to see it, I can send a pdf
> > > > version)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > DATE
> > > >
> > > > FROM/TO
> > > >
> > > > CONTENT
> > > >
> > > > DIRECT RESPONSE
> > > >
> > > > 7/5/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > Broad request for all operational documents and forms to be
> transferred
> > > >
> > > > None
> > > >
> > > > 7/6/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Bennedict
> > > >
> > > > Thanking him for proactively providing me with forms he thought I
> might
> > > > need and asking him about where other records are stored
> > > >
> > > > He responded that Alicia would have anything else I need
> > > >
> > > > 7/13/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > Reminder on things needed including latest affiliate bylaws
> > > >
> > > > None
> > > >
> > > > 7/15/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > Request for the bylaws archive required under the national bylaws
> > > >
> > > > None
> > > >
> > > > 7/22/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > Followup on 7/15/18 email requesting bylaws archive
> > > >
> > > > None
> > > >
> > > > 7/24/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > 7/28 from Harlos with list of items as follows:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1.     Archive of current bylaws for all affiliates
> > > >
> > > > 2.     Master party deadlines and diaries/ticklers
> > > >
> > > > 3.     Master forms (for instance, ballots, tokens…)
> > > >
> > > > 4.     Word copies of all manuals (for instance the delegation chair
> > > > manual)
> > > >
> > > > 5.     Any other documents, research, and standard forms that should
> be
> > > > transferred from Secretary to Secretary
> > > >
> > > > None
> > > >
> > > > 7/28/18
> > > >
> > > > Mattson to Harlos
> > > >
> > > > Forwarding conflicts of interest list
> > > >
> > > > Restating request for items in 7/24 email
> > > >
> > > > 8/5/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > Following up on 7/28 email
> > > >
> > > > None
> > > >
> > > > 8/23/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > Following up on 7/24, 7/28, 8/5 emails and stating “I understand you
> > are
> > > > very busy with convention minutes.  Can you please just acknowledge
> and
> > > > give me a loose time frame?”
> > > >
> > > > None
> > > >
> > > > 8/25/18
> > > >
> > > > Sarwark to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > Please answer the secretary’s requests
> > > >
> > > > 8/26 email from Mattson to Sarwark  - handling things with deadlines
> > > first
> > > >
> > > > 9/4/18
> > > >
> > > > Mattson to Harlos
> > > >
> > > > Attaching delegate motion form, region formation notice, presidential
> > > > ticket certificate of nomination, and sample election tally sheet
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 9/22/18
> > > >
> > > > Mattson to Harlos
> > > >
> > > > Extensive email responding to many requests and stating that she
> needed
> > > to
> > > > reorganize her file of affiliate bylaws to make sense to someone
> else.
> > > She
> > > > declines to give the word file for the delegation chair manual but
> does
> > > not
> > > > address the other manual – the delegation allocation and region
> > formation
> > > > manual nor the open-ended general request for her entire
> institutional
> > > > archive.
> > > >
> > > > 9/22/18 reply from Harlos interacting with response and objecting to
> > > > Mattson producing the delegation chair manual as follows:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > “Please get with me so that conflicting or confusing items are not
> sent
> > > > out as I do intend on being pretty hands-on working with the
> affiliates
> > > on
> > > > that and will produce a manual to pass on to my successor.  I will
> just
> > > > start from scratch then.”
> > > >
> > > > 9/24/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > Request for updated affiliate petition form
> > > >
> > > > None
> > > >
> > > > 11/18/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > Following on prior requests for bylaws archives
> > > >
> > > > None
> > > >
> > > > 11/24/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > Following up on prior requests for bylaws archives
> > > >
> > > > Reply by Mattson 11/27 questioning my need for them
> > > >
> > > > 11/27/18
> > > >
> > > > Harlos to Mattson
> > > >
> > > > Asking if she has the records or not and stating that I do not have
> to
> > > > justify my request for records from my predecessor to the extent they
> > > exist
> > > >
> > > > None
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > As you can see, requests still remain unanswered and most of my
> > requests
> > > > did not even receive an acknowledgment even when requested.  In
> > > > frustration, I started making my requests on this list since the
> > courtesy
> > > > of private emails was not working. Those too were mostly ignored so I
> > had
> > > > to resort to putting it in my report which finally got a response.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now Ms. Mattson claims she did not withhold certain information from
> me
> > > > because I had it in my report.  I had it in my report because I went
> > and
> > > > hunted it down myself.  I never claimed it did not exist.  I am
> > asserting
> > > > that I have it despite Ms. Mattson.  With that being said however,
> Ms.
> > > > Mattson missed my point.  It is obvious she previously calculated the
> > > > committee appointments and had this data prepared and available.
> That
> > > > should have been turned over immediately.  I should not have had to
> > > > re-create that information.  I did.  And I will.  But I should not
> have
> > > > had to.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Now on the issue of the delegation chair manual – Ms. Mattson
> > proactively
> > > > assumes many things about my intentions and then points to her
> > > assumptions
> > > > as proof.  A copy of the 2018 delegation chair manual is attached.
> It
> > > was
> > > > sent to the chairs under colour of her position as secretary.  It
> > > credits a
> > > > prior secretary with the original version (and to answer Ms.
> Mattson’s
> > > > insinuation, that is what I will do, credit her and Mr. Sullentrup)
> so
> > is
> > > > not Ms. Mattson’s original brainchild, and is obviously something
> > started
> > > > by a secretary prior to her.   There is absolutely nothing in it that
> > > would
> > > > indicate that this was something done as a “private” non-LNC member
> and
> > > > everything that marks it as an official work product.  That is
> > definitely
> > > > how it was received by many state chairs. Ms. Mattson may intend to
> > > > continue that project.  I cannot stop her from being tacky.  But as
> > part
> > > of
> > > > my secretarial duties, I will be producing something similar and will
> > > pass
> > > > it along to my successor.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > However, Ms. Mattson keeps ignoring that the delegation chair manual
> is
> > > > NOT THE ONLY MANUAL I requested or that exists.  Attached is the
> > Delegate
> > > > Allocation and Region formation manual.  I still have not received
> the
> > > word
> > > > version of that and renew my request for that document.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ms. Mattson alleges some malfeasance about a prior form provided – I
> do
> > > > not know if that is the only one that exists and have seen other
> > > versions,
> > > > thus my inquiry.  With the way she has produced things piecemeal and
> > > > obviously still has items not turned over, I have no idea if there
> are
> > > > others yet to be produced.  As for her claim that I obviously know I
> > have
> > > > everything, attached is an additional form that was used that she has
> > not
> > > > given me.  What else is there?  That is a very reasonable request.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ms. Mattson references spreadsheets used in the At-large audit that
> > were
> > > > provided to the entire LNC.  Again, I do not know if these are the
> same
> > > > tools she uses at convention and since she has never given me a
> single
> > > > excel spreadsheet identified as the convention tools, I am once again
> > > > guessing.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You see, this is just me, but let me tell you how I intend to handle
> > the
> > > > transition to my successor.  I will give over every single record
> > > produced
> > > > in relation to my duties.  At critical times, I will contact them
> > > privately
> > > > to give them a heads up such as – hey we are X months out from
> > > convention,
> > > > I would really suggest you get together a team to assist you.  What I
> > did
> > > > was [insert narrative].  I have verbally requested Ms. Mattson’s
> input
> > on
> > > > this issue.  It has been ignored.  Thus, I am reaching out to other
> > > people
> > > > in the party to assist who frankly are pretty shocked that Ms.
> Mattson
> > > has
> > > > not offered to do this.  Any disinterested observer should be.  This
> is
> > > not
> > > > the way the third largest political party should operate.  I have
> seen
> > > > local sewing clubs with more functional records transitions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No Ms. Mattson is NOT REQUIRED to be proactively helpful.  But she
> > SHOULD
> > > > be.  And our rules should be changed so that future officers know
> that
> > it
> > > > is part of their duties to ensure smooth transitions, not because
> their
> > > > successors cannot recreate the wheel, but because they should not
> have
> > > to.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My report is my report.  Putting such items in my report is the only
> > way
> > > I
> > > > have found to inspire Ms. Mattson to actually respond to my requests
> > as I
> > > > had to do to finally get the requested bylaws archives.  If Ms.
> Mattson
> > > > wishes to censor my view from preservation on the record, she can
> move
> > to
> > > > do so.  If she wishes to include a response that does not engage in
> the
> > > > unworthy snipes made above, I will include it in my report.  I do not
> > > wish
> > > > to silence anyone.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I could write a lot more.  But I doubt many people have read this
> far.
> > > > Ms. Mattson can try to find one nit to pick about a form provided but
> > > that
> > > > does not negate the entire history and thrust of her making things
> > > > purposefully difficult and refusing to give the courtesy of
> > > acknowledgments
> > > > of receipts.  Most of you had no idea this was going on behind the
> > > scenes.
> > > > Why?  I was hoping to work it out with Ms. Mattson privately.  I do
> not
> > > > take every public opportunity to berate or correct her as she does
> with
> > > > me.  I took the private route until it was proven absolutely
> fruitless.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If Ms. Mattson wishes to address this further at the meeting, I would
> > > > welcome it more than I can say. It more than time that this
> frustrating
> > > > stonewalling sees the light of day and we create institutional
> > procedures
> > > > to avoid this in the future.
> > > >
> > > > *In Liberty,*
> > > >
> > > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> > > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> anyone
> > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> > faux
> > > > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 5:09 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> > > caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Thank you for providing these comments early.  I will respond prior
> to
> > > >> issuing V2.  Here you have made some incorrect statements.  I will
> not
> > > >> however uncharitably insinuate that it was with ill intent or an
> > > attempt to
> > > >> smear.  It is unfortunate that you did not choose the same route,
> but
> > > that
> > > >> is your prerogative.
> > > >>
> > > >> I want to make one thing abundantly clear here, and will again.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> *==Ms. Harlos seems determined to give people the false impression
> > that
> > > I
> > > >> havesomehow crippled her ability to prepare for convention, and if I
> > > don’t
> > > >> callthat out, some people might be fooled into believing it.  I do
> not
> > > >> enjoythese arguments, but I will not agree to be her silent scape
> > > goat.===*
> > > >>
> > > >> *If my husband doesn't understand what I am thinking Ms. Mattson,
> you
> > > >> certainly do not have the requisite knowledge or familiarity to make
> > > such a
> > > >> diagnosis. So hear me clearly- I am not in any crippled to prepare.
> > If
> > > >> that were so, I would be asking for a motion.  I will be fully
> > prepared
> > > no
> > > >> matter what information is given or not.  However, there is an
> easier
> > > way
> > > >> to prepare and a harder one.  It would be fair to say that I am
> > stating
> > > you
> > > >> have made it more difficult and time-consuming and I blame that on
> our
> > > >> institutional failure to have central records repositories and
> > > requirements
> > > >> for continuity binders not you.  I do not need you or any else to
> be a
> > > >> "scapegoat" - in the spirit of charity I will ignore what  I could
> > read
> > > >> into that statement.  As I changed up multiple things in the way
> > > >> secretarial things are done in between conventions (numbering
> ballots,
> > > >> having master vote tallies and live vote tallies, and the one note
> > > system
> > > >> to name a few), I have already planned what I believe to be several
> > > >> improvements to convention processes (which is what each successor
> in
> > > any
> > > >> position should do or we stagnate).  I am not dependent on you
> > providing
> > > >> anything.   Frankly none of us are that important.  Not me, not you,
> > and
> > > >> not anyone.  It would be helpful - and it is a demonstration of our
> > > deficit
> > > >> in the area of succession.*
> > > >>
> > > >> *That point is important enough to state here and repeat.  This
> isn't
> > > >> about you.  This is about not having systems in place to make sure
> > that
> > > >> transitions are smooth and in the best interest of the organization
> -
> > > not
> > > >> subject to the vagaries of individual preference and debate. *
> > > >>
> > > >> *I do wish you hadn't indulged the temptation to make an attack on
> me
> > > >> about events during the audit.  I chose to be there and cancel other
> > > >> obligations.  I certainly was not paying attention to social media
> and
> > > not
> > > >> the process.  And if any time I had to take a text or email, you do
> > not
> > > >> know what it was about.  My work contacts me regularly and I am
> > > attentive
> > > >> to that, and with multiple pets being left with others, I was
> > regularly
> > > >> checking to be sure there was no message about them.  One of my pets
> > > was 21
> > > >> years old at the time, and I worried whenever I was away.  That was
> > > indeed
> > > >> a smear Ms. Mattson, and it was unworthy of you.*
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> *In Liberty,*
> > > >>
> > > >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> > > >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > anyone
> > > >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> > > faux
> > > >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 4:30 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> > > caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Ms. Mattson, please see below.  I had intended upon posting V2 this
> > > >>> morning, but I would like your thoughts on the below first (and any
> > > >>> additional commentary you may have).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On one item, I do disagree, and that is Mr. Phillips vote on ballot
> > > >>> 190906-1.  In the last sentence of his commentary, he stated "
> > > >>> As a pragmatist, I know the importance of not letting the perfect
> get
> > > in
> > > >>> the way of the good. But in my opinion, the status quo is
> preferable
> > > to this bill passing.
> > > >>> "
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I interpreted that as a no (and that could be coloured by my
> private
> > > >>> discussions with Mr. Phillips in which he told me he was voting
> no),
> > > and
> > > >>> Mr. Phillips did not challenge that when the results were posted.
> If
> > > Mr.
> > > >>> Phillips wishes to challenge, I can issue amended results.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I took a look at what the government has committed to as far as
> > > >>> publication dates, and March 31, 2021 is when the population data
> is
> > > to be
> > > >>> released for redistricting purposes.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> However, I disagree with your interpretation of our bylaws on that
> > > >>> point, and would like to hear your thoughts.  Specifically:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 3. The Platform Committee shall consist of 20 members selected as
> > > >>> follows:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *a. One member by each of the five affiliate parties having the
> > > greatest
> > > >>> per capita sustaining membership as determined for Convention
> > delegate
> > > >>> allocations at the most recent Regular Convention. *
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The numbers used are specified to be related to the time frame for
> > the
> > > >>> 2020 convention allocation which is this month - thus, the 2010
> > Census
> > > >>> numbers would be used.  It would not make sense to use BSM numbers
> > > from one
> > > >>> time period and census data from another.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> *In Liberty,*
> > > >>>
> > > >>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> > Syndrome
> > > >>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > anyone
> > > >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> social
> > > faux
> > > >>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 7:01 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> > > >>> caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Thank you very much.  I’ll take a look when I get home.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Your close readings of everyone’s reports is most appreciated.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 4:58 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> > > >>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Below are some additional corrections needed for the Secretary’s
> > > >>>>> report:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> In the section titled, “Status of Minutes Since Last Report”, the
> > > date
> > > >>>>> of
> > > >>>>> the July minutes was July 27-28, rather than July 28-29.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> In that same section, the July 27-28 minutes were approved by
> email
> > > >>>>> ballot
> > > >>>>> number 190922-01, rather than 190922-11.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> There is a section titled, “LNC Membership Changes Since August
> > > >>>>> Meeting”
> > > >>>>> but the meeting was in July rather than August.  That section
> lists
> > > >>>>> that
> > > >>>>> Pat Ford was elected as the new Region 8 alternate, but it should
> > > also
> > > >>>>> mention that the vacancy existed because Jeff Lyons resigned by
> > email
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>> the LNC on 08/06/19.  This resignation was also after the July
> > > meeting,
> > > >>>>> thus hasn’t been documented in other minutes.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> The census-related URL at the bottom of page 2 is not a valid
> > > >>>>> webpage.  It
> > > >>>>> leads to an error message landing page.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> In the section titled “Delegate Allocations” it indicates your
> > intent
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>> calculate and notify the states that will have earned committee
> > seats
> > > >>>>> for
> > > >>>>> the 2022 convention.  Please note that there will be a new census
> > > >>>>> before
> > > >>>>> the 2022 convention, leading to new denominators for the
> per-capita
> > > >>>>> calculations and we don’t know those numbers yet.  I don’t recall
> > how
> > > >>>>> long
> > > >>>>> it typically takes the U.S. Census Bureau to publish the results
> > of a
> > > >>>>> new
> > > >>>>> census, but presuming that data is available well before
> committee
> > > >>>>> appointment deadlines, the new data should be used for the 2022
> > > >>>>> calculations, rather than the 2010 data.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Under the heading “Email Ballots” the first sentence also needs
> the
> > > >>>>> dates
> > > >>>>> corrected for the July meeting.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Email ballot number 190804-01 is missing from the listing of
> email
> > > >>>>> ballots
> > > >>>>> since the last regular meeting.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Email ballot number 190830-1 ended on 09/06/19, rather than
> > 09/07/19.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On email ballot number 190906-01 a “no” vote is reported for John
> > > >>>>> Phillips,
> > > >>>>> but I did not find that he voted.  The closest I saw was a
> comment
> > > >>>>> from him
> > > >>>>> that if something is true, then he would not support the motion,
> > but
> > > >>>>> that’s
> > > >>>>> not a clear vote.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On email ballot number 190922-01, it lists the co-sponsors as
> > > “Harlos,
> > > >>>>> Longstreth, Merced, Phillips” but I saw no co-sponsorship from
> Mr.
> > > >>>>> Merced.
> > > >>>>> I saw that you inquired whether Mr. Merced would, but I saw no
> > > response
> > > >>>>> from him.  I did instead see co-sponsorship from Hagan and Smith
> > who
> > > >>>>> are
> > > >>>>> not listed there.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On email ballot 190922-01, the vote total reports 11 “aye” votes,
> > but
> > > >>>>> the
> > > >>>>> roll call listing only shows 10 names in the list.  It is missing
> > an
> > > >>>>> affirmative vote from Tim Hagan, which can be seen on the email
> > list
> > > >>>>> here:
> > > >>>>> http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business/2019/055042.html
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> -Alicia
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 7:10 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via
> Lnc-business <
> > > >>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> > Attached
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>> > *  In Liberty,*
> > > >>>>> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> > > >>>>> Syndrome
> > > >>>>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > >>>>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
> If
> > > >>>>> anyone
> > > >>>>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> > > social
> > > >>>>> faux
> > > >>>>> > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
> > > >>>>> know.  *
> > > >>>>> >
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> *In Liberty,*
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> > Syndrome
> > > >>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > >>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > > anyone
> > > >>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> social
> > > faux
> > > >>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > >
> >
>
-- 

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *