[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 191229-1: Appeal from Ruling of the Chair

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

I vote yes to sustain the ruling of the chair.

I will repost here the explanation I gave to the membership.

Years ago I learned of a situation about LNC over-reach regarding Oregon.
The decision the LNC made was not done in bad faith. Many could agree that
it was the right decision.

That was never the point. The point was whether or not the LNC had the
authority to make that decision in the first place - good decision or bad
was irrelevant.

They did not have that authority.

I was appalled that they tried to do that so I ran for the LNC originally
to protect Colorado and other region 1 states from that ever happening to
them.

Opposing LNC overreach is thus my primary motivation for being on the LNC
to begin with.

We have another situation that is similar in principle. No one is acting in
bad faith. The thing attempting to be done is very arguably a good
decision. But we do not have the authority to do so. We would be hypocrites
of the highest order if we interpret our bylaws which DO specifically
address a situation as allowing something not allowed in those specific
instructions. That goes against Libertarian principles of governing and
against parliamentary principles of member rights. It is what we condemn in
the government every single day.

No matter my emotions, I cannot act outside the bylaws, and I will not.

I urge the delegates to amend the bylaws if this is a power that they wish
the LNC to have.

Be careful what you wish for. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

A method to put this power in the hands of the delegates (perhaps by
petition of 10% of the prior delegates at the last convention similar to an
appeal) is far preferable.

I have heard an argument that our duty is to the many rather than the one.

If that is true, Libertarianism is a fraud.

You may disagree with my position, but it is held with conviction of my
principles and in good faith. I respect the many many members that have
written. But the ends do not justify the means. Yes, this needs to be
fixed. It is not fixed by the LNC abusing its p ower.

I am ashamed at what this had degenerated into. It is producing a lot of
heat and very little light.

This never should have been a public social media spectacle. One LNC member
took it up on themselves to take this out of a confidential session. That
was wrong. Other LNC members took advantage of that fact and are washing
their hands of it pointing fingers at that first discloser. That is wrong.
To be clear, discussing the situation publication is fine - disclosing the
name of the private individual is wrong and is a violation of our duties.
And our policy manual makes it clear that it is still wrong even if "he/she
did it first." Several LNC members are in violation of this principle.

With the exception of the issue in the paragraph above, there are no bad
actions - and even in those bad actions - those were not done in malice but
in good faith. One can be wrong in good faith.

The LNC members that disagree with me are doing so in good faith. I do urge
them to reconsider.

*  In Liberty,*
* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.  *


On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 1:30 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> EMAIL BALLOT 191229-1: Appeal from Ruling of the Chair
>
> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>
> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by January 5, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm
> Pacific time.
>
> Co-Sponsors:  Merced, Nekhaila, Phillips, Smith
>
> =============================================
>
>
> Motion: Appeal from the ruling of the chair that the motion stated by Mr.
> Phillips (located here:
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lncvotes/rpDQqjc2J5k/F9RokJMpAwAJ  and
> the ruling of the chair is here:
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/lncvotes/rpDQqjc2J5k/Meak1YRCAwAJ) was
> out of order.
>
> =============================================
>
> THRESHOLD REQUIRED: Simple majority
>
>
> PROCEDURAL NOTE:  A YES vote sustains the ruling the chair.  A NO vote
> over-rules the ruling of the chair.  It takes a majority of NO votes to
> overturn the ruling of the Chair.
>
>
>
> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
> https://tinyurl.com/ballot191229-1.  Votes are noted with a link to the
> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the manual
> tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>
> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>
> *  In Liberty,*
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.  *
>