[Lnc-business] I am confused

Sat Mar 14 21:14:29 EDT 2020

At our upcoming meeting, I can bring up what others have brought up to me -

*  In Liberty,*
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On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 9:09 PM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org> wrote:

> Sorry, but I can't quite figure out where the lack of a JC is going to
> affect any resolution to this situation.  Where would the JC have any
> jurisdiction per their Bylaws set possible courses of action:
>
>
> 2. The subject matter jurisdiction of the Judicial Committee is limited to
> consideration of only those
> matters expressly identified as follows:
> a. suspension of affiliate parties (Article 5, Section 6),
> b. suspension of officers (Article 6, Section 7),
> c. suspension of National Committee members-at-large (Article 7, Section
> 5),
> d. voiding of National Committee decisions (Article 7, Section 12),
> e. challenges to platform planks (Rule 5, Section 7),
> f. challenges to Resolutions (Rule 6, Section 2), and
> g. suspension of Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates (Article
> 14, Section 5).
>
>
> The only possible scenario I can envision is if the LNC decides to
> reappoint itself in the event we can't have a convention due to government
> mandate and Section 2d might pertain.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
>
> On 2020-03-14 20:53, john.phillips at lp.org wrote:
>
> Yes it may.  I have made that point before.
>
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973
>
> On Mar 14, 2020 7:47 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I don't like to say I told you so, but the whole "no big deal we don't
> have a JC" may come to bite us in the ass over this convention.  I don't
> want to be right.
>
> *  In Liberty,*
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.  *
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 8:32 PM <john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
>
> So that answers the question.  So it can be done if the steps are
> followed.
>
> Whether it should I will leave to others.
>
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973
>
> On Mar 14, 2020 6:20 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> The delegates in convention can do pretty much whatever they want within
> the bound of the Bylaws and Roberts.  We have had Bylaws and/or Convention
> Rules that take effect immediately, the change to Approval Voting for At
> Large and JC at Columbus that turned into a major fiasco, for instance.
>
>
> ARTICLE 17: AMENDMENT
> 1. These Bylaws may be amended by a 2/3 vote of the delegates at any
> Regular Convention.
> 2. Article 3, Section 1, or this Section, shall not be amended by a vote
> of less than 7/8 of all
> registered delegates at a Regular Convention.
>
>
> ---
> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
>
> On 2020-03-14 17:07, john.phillips at lp.org wrote:
>
> Thank you for the clarification.
>
> However, they could consider a bylaws change at convention to allow it?
>
> At this point this is low on my things of concern, just engaging in a
> conversation brought up.
>
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973
>
> On Mar 14, 2020 2:57 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org> wrote:
>
> The solution would be a Bylaws change allowing an immediate election of a
> JC that will hold office until 2022 when the regular cycle would resume.
> Caryn Ann is correct in that the Bylaws cannot be suspended.  We cannot
> resume the election as unfinished business because all business terminated
> at the end of the convention, we didn't table it until the next meeting.
> ---
> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> Libertarian National Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
>
> On 2020-03-14 15:46, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:
>
> I am unsure why it would take a bylaws change?
>
> Could we not just continue the election as unfinished/old business from
> the last convention?
>
> Not an expert on this as we know, but would seem to be the simplest
> solution.
>
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973
>
> On Mar 14, 2020 2:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> I keep hearing discussions about how we can fix the JC issue this
> convention through a suspension of the Rules but the JC is under the
> Bylaws
> not the Rules and Bylaws cannot be suspended.  Am I missing something
> here?
>
> *  In Liberty,*
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.  *
>
>
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