[Lnc-business] Fwd: Re: presidential nomination delegate voting backup plan

[Sam Goldstein]

It looks like Joe Dehn didn't send his proposal to the entire LNC so I'm
forwarding it for your consideration.  With a few modifications I would
be willing to sponsor an email ballot to approve this procedure in the
event the convention is cancelled. 

Please note that I am not looking for co-sponsors at this time.  We need
a few days to consider Joe's proposal and to make any needed changes. 

Also note that should the nomination devolve to the LNC that we will
need a two thirds vote of the entire LNC to approve POTUS and VPOTUS
nominees. 

Stay safe and 

Live Free,

---
Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
Libertarian National Committee
317-850-0726 Cell 

-------- Original Message -------- 

 		SUBJECT:
 		Re: presidential nomination delegate voting backup plan

 		DATE:
 		2020-03-27 10:11

 		FROM:
 		Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>

 		TO:
 		Daniel Fishman <dan.fishman at lphq.org>

 		CC:
 		Joe Dehn <jwd3 at dehnbase.org>, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org>, Alex
Merced <alex.merced at lp.org>, Caryn Ann Harlos
<carynannharlos at gmail.com>, Tim Hagan <tim.hagan at lp.org>, Joe
Bishop-Henchman <joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org>, Alicia Mattson
<alicia.mattson at lp.org>, William Redpath <william.redpath at lp.org>,
Joshua Smith <joshuahxc at gmail.com>, Richard Longstreth
<richard.longstreth at lp.org>, Francis Wendt <francis.wendt at lp.org>,
Steven Nekhaila <steven.nekhaila at lp.org>, Elizabeth Van Horn
<elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>, Victoria Sexton <victoria.sexton at lp.org>,
Jeff Hewitt <jeffrey.hewitt at lp.org>, Dustin Nanna <dustin.nanna at lp.org>,
Tim Ferreira <tim.ferreira at lp.org>, Jim Lark <james.lark at lp.org>, Susan
Hogarth <hogarth at gmail.com>, John Phillips <john.phillips at lp.org>,
Phillip Anderson <phillip.anderson at lp.org>, Whitney Bilyeu
<whitney.bilyeu at lp.org>, Erin Adams <erinadams.lp at gmail.com>, Justin
ODonnell <justin.odonnell at lp.org>, Pat Ford <pford at lpri.us>, Dan Fishman
<dan.fishman at lp.org>

Joe, 

I agree with Dan that you have presented a well thought out plan for the
worst case scenario that the convention is cancelled.  

At first glance I do see a couple items that would need to be corrected
before I would be willing to sponsor an email ballot.  

Although this procedure is outside the Bylaws mandated voting procedure
for POTUS, I'm sure we will get negative feedback for limiting
nominations to nine candidates (23 May morning - FIRST NOMINATION BALLOT
(with up to nine candidates listed).  Since our rules limit both POTUS
and VPOUTS to those who have gotten the support of at least 30
delegates, do you have a suggestion on how and when delegates tokens can
be submitted to teh Secretary? 

My other concern is the lack of a procedure for VPOTUS.  Our rules
require the same procedure to be used as that for POTUS but I think that
would be very confusing for delegates to run simultaneously. 

Thanks for getting this underway, 

---
Sam Goldstein 
LNC At Large 
Convention Oversight Committee
317-850-0726 Cell 

On 2020-03-27 09:22, Daniel Fishman wrote:

> Joe,
> 
> Thanks very much for this detailed plan. I too am of the mindset that if you fail to plan you plan to fail. We'll make more informed decisions because you took the time to lay this out.
> 
> --- 
> Daniel Fishman
> Executive Director
> The Libertarian Party
> Join Us [1] 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 4:16 PM Joe Dehn <jwd3 at dehnbase.org> wrote: 
> 
>> We are facing what may be the most difficult situation ever in 
>> continuing the work of our party. This situation has many facets, some 
>> of which will not be possible to resolve for some time.
>> 
>> However I believe that almost all members of this party will agree that 
>> it is better that we have a national campaign this year than not -- and 
>> to that end we must have a national ticket that is seen by the general 
>> public, election authorities, and EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY by our own 
>> members as legitimately representing us.
>> 
>> I understand that the convention may yet happen, and that the Convention 
>> Oversight Committee is hard at work to make it possible. That would be 
>> wonderful. The plan I am putting forward is NOT in competition with 
>> that.
>> 
>> What I am proposing is a _backup plan_, in case all efforts to have a 
>> convention fail. Waiting until the convention actually is cancelled, if 
>> it must be cancelled, could lead to needless confusion and turmoil. 
>> Doing a bit of work now to have a backup plan ready will cost 
>> practically nothing, while assuring our state affiliates, the candidates 
>> who have been working so hard for our nomination, those who volunteered 
>> to serve as delegates -- and our members in general -- that there _is_ a 
>> way forward to give us a national ticket that respects their efforts.
>> 
>> The specifics of what I am proposing can be found at:
>> 
>> https://delvote.dehnbase.net/about
>> 
>> If you have any questions I can be reached at:
>> 
>> jwd3 at dehnbase.org
>> 408-774-1570
 

Links:
------
[1] http://www.lp.org/join