[Lnc-business] Hybrid Convention idea

[Elizabeth Van Horn]

Hi John, 

I'm not sure of the best way to do it, but do think it needs done. 
We're lucky that many are working on solutions.  

I'm glad the hybrid/online concept is being discussed.  We need to have
this be an open and transparent process. Which is why I'm replying to
people about this on our email list.  Our members want to see that the
LNC is working to help the delegates participate.  This situation that
we're under (virus crisis) isn't the norm.  So, the LP needs to adapt. 
As Libertarians we should be innovative and forward acting.  

---
Elizabeth Van Horn
LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)

On 2020-05-04 15:43, john.phillips at lp.org wrote:

> Agreed Elizabeth. Tho i believe the easiest way to make that happen is making it first thing on the convention agenda.  I believe bylaws is working on the language already, and most of us agree on the necessity.   
> 
> Perhaps that is something we could do on Saturday? Motion to "make consideration of bylaws amendment to allow remote participation first item on the agenda"? 
> 
> A few of us were already discussing it, but since you brought it up here ... 
> 
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973 
> 
> On May 4, 2020 2:27 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> I will not support without a hybrid option.  If a POTUS/VP nomination 
>> can be done electronically/remotely.  Then so can the other convention 
>> business. 
>> 
>> This isn't about "everyone gets something they want".  It's about not 
>> asking people to risk their health or that of family.  
>> 
>> --- 
>> Elizabeth Van Horn 
>> LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY) 
>> 
>> On 2020-05-04 13:25, dustin.nanna--- via Lnc-business wrote: 
>> 
>>> I'm actually not sure I'd be willing to support a postponement that doesn't also allow remote participation but I could be swayed if that's what the delegation wants. 
>>> 
>>> On May 4, 2020 1:18 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> Tim and Dustin, there is a majority of LNC members now who are willing to 
>>>> sign on to a different compromise.  An all online P/VP election very soon 
>>>> and an in person convention for everything else in July/august with no 
>>>> hybrid option.  This way everyone gets something of what they want.  I am 
>>>> willing to sign off on that. 
>>>> 
>>>> I hope you will too Tim. 
>>>> 
>>>> *In Liberty,* 
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 10:51 AM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business < 
>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>>> According to Rule 3 of the Convention Special Rules of Order, delegates 
>>>>> can be polled individually if a state's vote report is challenged, and 
>>>>> they must sign computer readable ballots if they're used. There's no 
>>>>> requirement for a secret ballot. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I listened in on the Bylaws Committee meeting yesterday. They worked on 
>>>>> an amendment that would allow a hybrid convention. I'd fully support 
>>>>> what they had at the end of their meeting, and it's very similar to your 
>>>>> idea. Of course, It would need to be passed by the in-person attendees 
>>>>> to become in effect. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --- 
>>>>> Tim Hagan 
>>>>> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2020-05-04 09:34, dustin.nanna--- via Lnc-business wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Attached is a rough idea that I had that might satisfy both sides of the 
>>>>> issue. It was relatively popular with Ohio folks 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I want to get your guys' thoughts on a hybrid convention. Here's how it 
>>>>> would work roughly: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As many delegates as possible/want to would meet at a time and place 
>>>>> best suited and ASAP. They would then authorize emergency bylaws allowing 
>>>>> remote voting for those with health concerns, compromised family, etc. Each 
>>>>> delegation chair would make the decision on who would meet the criteria and 
>>>>> the delegation chair would need to be on site at the physical portion of 
>>>>> convention. Those voting remote could only vote on things that aren't 
>>>>> voice. (Such as President, VC, LNC officers and at large, and JC) and would 
>>>>> do so by email ballot (my only concern here is no secret ballot). The state 
>>>>> chairs would then tabulate the combined votes and send them to the on site 
>>>>> secretary as usual. 
>>>>>