[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01

[Joe Bishop-Henchman]

Ms. Adams,

Once we're past the convention matter before us, I'm happy to work with 
you and Mr. O'Donnell to co-sponsor something along those lines.

JBH

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Joe Bishop-Henchman
LNC Member (At-Large)
joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837

On 2020-05-05 19:02, Erin Adams wrote:
> Mr. O'Donnell and I worked on language for a similar proposal that I
> would be happy to share with the author of this proposal if they would
> like. The largest differences in the two in my opinion are that our
> proposal allows for that to be waived with a three-fourths vote of the
> lnc should this party face a situation where we needed to do so
> 
> Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
> 
> On May 5, 2020 5:39 PM, Joe Bishop-Henchman
> <joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> I vote no. A total ban on (say) hiring a spouse of a former regional
>> 
>> alternate, or having to fire a staff member who becomes engaged to a
>> 
>> sitting Judicial Committee member, without any ability to waive it,
>> 
>> seems overkill. We'd end up having to repeal the language, which
>> suggests we shouldn't have to pass it in the first place.
>> 
>> There's also an issue of terms being used in the language without
>> being
>> defined.
>> 
>> I'm happy to work with the mysterious author to perfect the
>> proposal,
>> although this week has been a bit busy.
>> 
>> JBH
>> 
>> ------------
>> Joe Bishop-Henchman
>> LNC Member (At-Large)
>> joe.bishop-henchman at lp.org
>> www.facebook.com/groups/189510455174837
>> 
>> On 2020-05-05 17:58, Erin Adams via Lnc-business wrote:
>>> I also read this as being something a 3/4 majority could choose
>> to
>>> waive
>>> If that is not the case, I withdrawl my support
>>> 
>>> On May 5, 2020 11:26 AM, "justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business"
>>> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Actually, its been brought to my attention that I may have
>> misread
>>>> this as presented. I was under the impression that the intent was
>> to
>>>> have ineligibilities during the 12 months following an LNC tenure
>> to
>>>> be waivable by 3/4 vote of the LNC.
>>>> 
>>>> This version specifically prohibits employment whatsoever with
>> no
>>>> authority for the LNC to override it.
>>>> My intent was NOT to bind the next LNC, but to put reateictions
>>>> requiring a high barrier of institutional consent on current
>> members
>>>> seeking to leverage relationships in the future.
>>>> 
>>>> If I was mistaken in misreading this, I'm sorry, but I had
>> thought
>>>> the intent of my suggestions was clear in that matter.
>>>> 
>>>> Justin O'Donnell
>>>> LNC Region 8 Representative
>>>> 
>>>> On May 5, 2020 4:03 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>>>> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There is a corrected attachment for the motion.  I still vote
>> yes.
>>>>> Please
>>>>> see attached.
>>>>> 
>>>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>>> Syndrome
>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
>> If
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>>>> social faux
>>>>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
>>>>> know.  *
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I vote yes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>>> Syndrome
>>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
>> If
>>>>> anyone
>>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>>>> social faux
>>>>>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let
>> me
>>>>> know.  *
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:29 AM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I received  a request for this ballot off-list with
>>>>> verifications from
>>>>>>> all of the co-sponsors.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> EMAIL BALLOT 220505-1: Amend Policy Manual 2.01
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 12, 2020 at
>>>>> 11:59:59 pm
>>>>>>> Pacific time.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Co-Sponsors:  Bilyeu, Harlos, Longstreth, Mattson, O'Donnell,
>>>>> Smith
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> =============================================
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Motion: Please see attached.  The formatting is not conducive
>>>>> to pasting
>>>>>>> in email.  Let me know if you have any issues with the
>>>>> attachment.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> =============================================
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> THRESHOLD REQUIRED:  Simple Majority
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes
>>>>> here:
>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/ballot200505-1.  Votes are noted with a
>>>>> link to the
>>>>>>> actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time
>> that
>>>>> the manual
>>>>>>> tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>>>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
>>>>> Syndrome
>>>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect
>> inter-personal
>>>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
>>>>> If anyone
>>>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
>>>>> social faux
>>>>>>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let
>> me
>>>>> know.  *
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>