[Lnc-business] [COC 2018-20] Fwd: Request for LNC Consideration

Thu May 7 14:49:48 EDT 2020

Nick,

How do you intend to implement your decision below in light of the fact 
that the LNC voted to postpone to a physical convention to be held no 
later than July 15th?

Live Free,

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Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
Libertarian National Committee
317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-07 14:36, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
> 
> It is my ruling as Chair, and supported by the opinion of the 
> Libertarian
> National Committee's special counsel, Oliver Hall, that “place” in the
> bylaws can mean a virtual convention in the situation where it is
> impossible for the vast majority of the selected delegates in the party 
> to
> travel to a physical location.
> 
> As such, a virtual convention held on Memorial Day weekend would be a
> proper convention and compliant with the bylaws.
> 
> Yours in liberty,
> Nick
> 
> 
> On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 2:26 PM Whitney Bilyeu via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> The COC's job is to plan a convention, in accordance with bylaws. The 
>> LNC
>> is responsible for final decisions. No one is being forced to do 
>> anything,
>> especially by the COC. It is not the COC's job to suggest a convention 
>> plan
>> that is not in line with bylaws. The COC's job is to put together 
>> plans,
>> offer options for the LNC to choose, and make suggestions where 
>> applicable.
>> 
>> The LNC could have moved to change plans at any time...it didn't. The 
>> LNC
>> could have voted this past Saturday to do something other than
>> postpone......It didn't.
>> 
>> If an LNC member wants something other than an in-person convention, 
>> in
>> accordance with bylaws, they should move such. The LNC will
>> decide.....again.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 9:36 AM BetteRose via Conventions <
>> conventions at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>> > I believe it was the LNC that voted for the in person convention. The CoC
>> > may have 'pushed' for that outcome but we didn't make the final decision.
>> >
>> > My concern is, that as deaths continue to rise we may again have to find
>> > another venue and move the convention once again.  This will be hard on
>> > most of the delegates and won't play well in the press.  I see that the
>> > Democrats are already having trouble with that same issue.
>> >
>> > BetteRose Ryan
>> > Publisher
>> > Bent Briar Publishing <http://www.bentbriarbooks.com/>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Alicia Mattson via Conventions <conventions at hq.lp.org>
>> > To: Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>> > Cc: Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson at lp.org>; Convention Oversight
>> > Committee <conventions at hq.lp.org>
>> > Sent: Sun, May 3, 2020 11:34 pm
>> > Subject: Re: [COC 2018-20] [Lnc-business] Fwd: Request for LNC
>> > Consideration
>> >
>> > Well, I meant to send that to the COC email list, but I was going to come
>> > here and say pretty much the same thing.
>> >
>> > From this forwarded message below, Valerie Sarwark wrote to us:  "The
>> > Convention Oversight Committee is essentially committing suppression of
>> > delegates by attempting to force an in-person convention."
>> >
>> > Force?  Suppression of delegates?  Those of differing opinions are
>> > attempting to achieve their desired result, too.  Is that force?
>> >
>> > We're getting a lot of email these days, and it's easy to skim and miss
>> > details, so I wanted to highlight this.  The demonizing of the COC is as
>> > shameful as it is absurd.
>> >
>> > -Alicia
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 10:28 PM Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson at lp.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Forwarding for those of you not on the LNC.  The rhetoric being spewed
>> > about the COC is becoming more and more outrageous.  There was quite a
>> bit
>> > of it flung around during the Bylaws and Rules Committee meeting today as
>> > well...
>> >
>> > -Alicia
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> > From: *justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business* <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>> > Date: Sun, May 3, 2020 at 12:01 PM
>> > Subject: [Lnc-business] Fwd: Request for LNC Consideration
>> > To: <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>> > Cc: <justin.odonnell at lp.org>
>> >
>> >
>> > Attached is a letter to the LNC from a Region 8 Member and New Hampshire
>> > delegate for the LNC's consideration.
>> >
>> > Justin O'Donnell
>> > LNC Region 8 Representative
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: Valerie Sarwark
>> > Date: May 3, 2020 2:55 PM
>> > Subject: Request for LNC Consideration
>> > To: Justin.Odonnell at lp.org
>> > Cc: Pat.Ford at lp.org
>> >
>> > Justin,
>> >
>> > As my regional representative, please forward this letter to the LNC
>> > business list.
>> >
>> > Pat,
>> >
>> > Thank you for your responsible "no" vote in yesterday's meeting.
>> >
>> >
>> > ****
>> > Dear Members of the Board,
>> > I am a delegate to the National Convention representing the state of New
>> > Hampshire. This is the third convention to which I have the great
>> privilege
>> > of serving as a delegate.
>> > I would like you to strongly consider retaining the original convention
>> > dates and move to an electronic business meeting. The nomination of
>> > presidential ticket and LNC positions should be filled as soon as
>> possible
>> > to ensure we have the strongest start to Election Day (which is only 180
>> > days from now).
>> > The Convention Oversight Committee is essentially committing suppression
>> > of delegates by attempting to force an in-person convention. The country
>> is
>> > in the middle of a pandemic with many states not even open for gatherings
>> > of over 10 people. The country is in the middle of an economic collapse
>> > with millions unemployed and unable to pay rent. You are now asking these
>> > people to somehow rearrange their schedules, spend more money and
>> > potentially put their lives at risk.
>> > In addition to the financial constraints on many of our delegates (the
>> > majority of which are dues-paying members of the party), you are not
>> > considering those affected by scheduling as far as their children. I have
>> > spent YEARS as active as possible and trying to make the party a more
>> > welcoming place for families. Although both my husband and I have been
>> able
>> > to work through this time, it seems financially irresponsible to drag the
>> > entire family to a yet-to-be-determined site. With so many that are in
>> the
>> > same situation (or potentially worse off), would you feel comfortable
>> > asking them to go into debt just so they can have their voices heard?
>> > We’ve all blocked this time. We’re all ready for this meeting. We all
>> want
>> > to participate but we are now being told that we have to reschedule
>> > everything within a couple of weeks. We are in the middle of an emergency
>> > and forcing people to shuffle their schedules, lives, and finances around
>> > is quite ridiculous. This isn’t about courage or principles. This is
>> about
>> > doing the best thing for the delegates that represent the party. Other
>> > political meetings with greater participants have already occurred.
>> > Shouldn’t we show the world that we are serious, considerate, innovative
>> > and ready to adapt?
>> > The best choice for some is not the best choice for all. An online
>> > convention, held Memorial Day weekend, will not exclude delegates. You
>> need
>> > to consider the right thing to do for ALL of the delegates.
>> >
>> > Sincerely,
>> > Valerie A. Sarwark
>> >
>> >
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