[Lnc-business] Join Us for LP Happy Hour in a Virtual Convention Hall

Sat May 9 04:58:31 EDT 2020

I was only refer to Ms. Desisto.  My question was only to Mr. Fishman, and
my language was only to him.  I certainly expected HIM to respond.  Ms.
DeSisto was not entailed in any way.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 1:44 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Dear Ms. Harlos,
>
> If LNC members are going to refer directly to staff members and complain
> about staff members on the LNC Business list, it is unfair for those _SAME_
> LNC members to object to staff members respectfully responding on the LNC
> Business list. Especially when those references use intemperate language
> and cast aspersions.
>
> Yours in liberty,
> Nick
>
> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:18 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > The LNC list is not the place for staff to be chiming in to debates.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 9:15 PM Tara DeSisto <tara at lphq.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Dan has been killing himself for the LP and maintaining a really
> positive
> > > attitude and sense of purpose through it all. I know we are not suppose
> > to
> > > have opinions on staff but sometimes it’s important to see a staff
> > > perspective.
> > >
> > > We are working hard and are working to be proud of the work we produce.
> > We
> > > know how important all of these things are because it is all we do and
> we
> > > are required to produce results and not opinion. These are tests runs
> and
> > > we have a limited staff working to adapt to the work life balance of
> > > COVID’s impact on American Liberties and the urgency of convention in a
> > > Presidential year. We didn’t sign up for all nighters, but we are here
> > for
> > > the party.
> > >
> > > I hope the LNC continues to support us in the work we do.
> > >
> > > -Tara
> > >
> > > > On May 8, 2020, at 10:47 PM, Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business <
> > > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I had the normal Happy Hour already scheduled for 5pm, I had
> > Libertarian
> > > > Candidate Hour on LPTV at 8pm. I thought I'd like to have something
> to
> > > > report before the LNC meeting tomorrow, I gave everyone as much
> notice
> > > as I
> > > > possibly could have. I don't know how else to answer your question as
> > to
> > > > why I could not give more notice. I also want to complete this as
> fast
> > > as I
> > > > possibly can, while delivering a quality product.
> > > >
> > > > One of the reasons for the slowness in getting in was scale. Today it
> > was
> > > > just me, Mat and Tyler running everything.  I talked with Emily
> > Salvette
> > > > and Susan Hogarth and we believe with the credentials committee
> running
> > > > credentialing we'll be much faster.  If this is the way (and I'm not
> > > > convinced it's the best technical path, but once we got it going it
> > > showed
> > > > promise) we'd run it with many more producers/facilitators.
> > > >
> > > > The essence of the bottleneck was that I had 2 jobs. Mat was the
> > producer
> > > > in the main delegation hall, Tyler ran "credentials"  I was the
> > architect
> > > > and traffic director, setting up the hall and the rooms, moving
> > > > "uncredentialed" people to credentials, and then credentialed people
> to
> > > the
> > > > delegate hall. And of course I was tech support.
> > > >
> > > > I was also the person processing the submitted forms and sending out
> > the
> > > > confirmations.  When the rush got big at 5, I had to stop processing
> > > forms
> > > > because there was a ton of traffic.  Tyler was magnificent in
> > > > "credentialling" though.
> > > >
> > > > Then I thought we'd cleared the decks, and Tyler sent me a text from
> > > > Richard and I went back to look at registrants and there were 80
> more.
> > > So
> > > > we processed them too.
> > > >
> > > > But let me be clear -- all we're doing here is testing software.
> Every
> > > > trial the process gets better.  We're still not ready for a
> rehearsal,
> > > let
> > > > alone a dress rehearsal. Considering this blistering pace -- two user
> > > > facing demos in 4 days?
> > > >
> > > > But this is TESTING. The entire point of this is that things are
> > SUPPOSED
> > > > to go wrong. The user experience is going to be terrible in spots.
> I'm
> > > very
> > > > appreciative of everyone wanting to help out with testing -- but
> > testing
> > > > SUCKS.  QA (quality assurance) can't be neglected though, so I am a
> > > > believer in test test test and test again.  Get in as many tests as
> > > > possible as fast as possible. People who want to help things get
> better
> > > > should jump in and help by participating in tests, and bring
> patience.
> > > > People who want a smooth and happy experience shouldn't be involved
> at
> > > this
> > > > level.
> > > >
> > > > And my intent is to keep testing and getting better. And I promise
> when
> > > we
> > > > get to the point that I've got something I think is serviceable we'll
> > > have
> > > > MUCH bigger and more structured tests. Till then I intend to keep
> > moving
> > > as
> > > > fast as I can from a technical stand point, and notifying the LNC as
> > soon
> > > > as I can about the next trial.
> > > >
> > > > My #1 priority is the highest quality solution as fast as I can
> deliver
> > > > it.
> > > > ---
> > > > Daniel Fishman
> > > > Executive Director
> > > > The Libertarian Party
> > > > Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:15 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> > > caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> That really didn’t answer my question.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:55 PM Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business <
> > > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I am just learning and testing software as fast as I can and as
> soon
> > > as I
> > > >>> am ready. I am really appreciative that everyone wants to join, but
> > all
> > > >>> we're doing is functionality. Nothing official is happening, Noone
> is
> > > >>> missing out by not being in. I prefer having real members test.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Last night at 2am I had given up on Zoom as a platform -- in fact I
> > > posted
> > > >>> about it to staff on slack a midnight, but then stuck with it for 2
> > > more
> > > >>> hours.  Then I had an epiphany sleeping that woke me up, got out of
> > > bed at
> > > >>> 6am and started working. At 10am I started testing my ideas, and
> was
> > > >>> pleased with the results.  At 11 I demoed to LPHQ which some of you
> > > saw in
> > > >>> standup, got pretty good feedback. Tweaked a bit, created the
> > > environment,
> > > >>> sent the notice to the LNC at noon.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Honestly as fast as I could.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Dan
> > > >>> ---
> > > >>> Daniel Fishman
> > > >>> Executive Director
> > > >>> The Libertarian Party
> > > >>> Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 9:47 PM Daniel Fishman <
> dan.fishman at lphq.org>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Sorry 7:30
> > > >>>> ---
> > > >>>> Daniel Fishman
> > > >>>> Executive Director
> > > >>>> The Libertarian Party
> > > >>>> Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 9:47 PM Daniel Fishman <
> dan.fishman at lphq.org
> > >
> > > >>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> It ended at 7pm
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> ---
> > > >>>>> Daniel Fishman
> > > >>>>> Executive Director
> > > >>>>> The Libertarian Party
> > > >>>>> Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:28 PM Erin Adams via Lnc-business <
> > > >>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I want to clarify I registered late, so I'm patiently awaiting a
> > > link
> > > >>> at
> > > >>>>>> this time
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On May 8, 2020 6:27 PM, Erin Adams <erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Registered but still have not received the link
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Erin Adams Region 7 alt.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On May 8, 2020 5:10 PM, Phillip Anderson via Lnc-business <
> > > >>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Now 'I Drink Alone' by George Thorogood is in my head...    and
> > now
> > > >>> all
> > > >>>>>> of
> > > >>>>>> yours. You're welcome.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 5:05 PM john.phillips--- via
> Lnc-business <
> > > >>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I know i got a call from a couple as well
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> John Phillips
> > > >>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> > > >>>>>>> Cell 217-412-5973
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On May 8, 2020 4:46 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> > > >>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Thank you Mr Wendt.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> And I am reading on the state chairs list that some of them are
> > > very
> > > >>>>>> upset
> > > >>>>>>> too.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Why was the promise of more notice broken?  What was the urgent
> > > need
> > > >>>>>> to do
> > > >>>>>>> this TONIGHT.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 3:43 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> > > >>>>>> caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> > > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I am talking about the convention credentialling test.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I’m well aware of the happy hour.  I want an answer to the
> > other.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 3:21 PM Richard Longstreth <
> > > >>>>>>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> We do happy hour events every Friday...
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 2:17 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via
> > Lnc-business
> > > >>> <
> > > >>>>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Mr. Fishman, can you explain why you set this up for today
> > > >>> rather
> > > >>>>>> than
> > > >>>>>>>>>> give
> > > >>>>>>>>>> us more notice?  It seemed that last time we were promised
> > more
> > > >>>>>>> notice,
> > > >>>>>>>>>> yet
> > > >>>>>>>>>> here we are and I want to know why.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as
> Asperger's
> > > >>>>>> Syndrome
> > > >>>>>>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect
> inter-personal
> > > >>>>>>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
> > If
> > > >>>>>>> anyone
> > > >>>>>>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some
> other
> > > >>>>>> social
> > > >>>>>>> faux
> > > >>>>>>>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 3:14 PM Whitney Bilyeu via
> > Lnc-business <
> > > >>>>>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately, I am still working. Unfortunately, that means
> I
> > > >>>>>> cannot
> > > >>>>>>> be
> > > >>>>>>>>>> on
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> the Happy Hour/Convention Test at this time.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 11:04 AM Daniel Fishman via
> > > >>> Lnc-business
> > > >>>>>> <
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> We've set up a Virtual Convention Hall in Zoom, and we'd
> > > >>> like
> > > >>>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>> join us
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> there for a drink!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Come see our iterative process and see how we've improved
> > > >>> over
> > > >>>>>> our
> > > >>>>>>>>>> last
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> attempt. We're not conducting any business.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> There is a richer registration and approval process -- a
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> mock credentialing done by volunteers. You'll see when you
> > > >>>>>> sign up
> > > >>>>>>>>>> that
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> we're asking many more questions in your registration
> > > >>> process,
> > > >>>>>> and
> > > >>>>>>>>>> then
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> we
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> evaluate your answers to those questions before we decide
> to
> > > >>>>>> let
> > > >>>>>>> you
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> enter
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the main room.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Assuming you pass our mock credentialing (and you will!)
> > > >>>>>> you'll be
> > > >>>>>>>>>> in the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> main hall, where we will be drinking and having a good
> time!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Here's the invitation:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> I'll also be sending this to the State Chairs for them to
> > > >>> send
> > > >>>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>>>>> their
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> delegation. Eventually we'll limit participation to only
> > > >>>>>> people on
> > > >>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> official delegate list, but for now we're just looking at
> > > >>>>>>>>>> functionality.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there,
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> You are invited to Libertarian Party Happy Hour in a
> Virtual
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Convention
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hall
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> When: May 8, 2020 05:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> We're going to explore some new possibilities with a
> virtual
> > > >>>>>> hall
> > > >>>>>>> and
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> breakout rooms.  Bring the recreation relaxer of your
> choice
> > > >>>>>> and
> > > >>>>>>>>>> join us
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> for a conversation!
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Register in advance for this meeting:
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>
> > >
> >
> https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZUvc-CtrjIvGtJYGs8cySuCapOYED18MMWY
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> After registering, you will receive a confirmation email
> > > >>>>>>> containing
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> information about joining the meeting.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> ---
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Fishman
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Executive Director
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> The Libertarian Party
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Join Us <http://www.lp.org/join>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> *Whitney Bilyeu*
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> Region 7 Representative
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> 281.433.4966
> > > >>>>>>>>>>> LP.ORG
> > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>> Richard Longstreth
> > > >>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT,
> > WA,
> > > >>>>>> WY)
> > > >>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
> > > >>>>>>>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> > > >>>>>>>>> 931.538.9300
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> > > >>>>>> Syndrome
> > > >>>>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > >>>>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
> If
> > > >>>>>> anyone
> > > >>>>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> > > >>> social
> > > >>>>>>> faux
> > > >>>>>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> > > >>> Syndrome
> > > >>>>>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > >>>>>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
> If
> > > >>>>>> anyone
> > > >>>>>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> > > social
> > > >>>>>> faux
> > > >>>>>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >> --
> > > >>
> > > >> *In Liberty,*
> > > >>
> > > >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> > > >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > > >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> > anyone
> > > >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> > > faux
> > > >> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> > --
> >
> > *In Liberty,*
> >
> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >
>