[Lnc-business] Regional Agreements and Request for Opinion of Chair

Sam Goldstein sam.goldstein at lp.org
Tue May 12 13:22:43 EDT 2020


Richard,

Are you assuming the POTUS/VP selection process will be over then?

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Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
Libertarian National Committee
317-850-0726 Cell

On 2020-05-12 13:01, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business wrote:
> Region 1 would like the LNC room on Saturday about 6 EST for two hours 
> if
> it is available for the purpose of regional caucusing
> 
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
> 
> Sent from my Mobile Device
> 
> On Tue, May 12, 2020, 09:56 Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> We'd be pretty terrible libertarians if we required you to use the 
>> national
>> space for regional meetings.  We will have zoom space available, but 
>> it's
>> up to each region to decide what they want to do..
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> Daniel Fishman
>> Executive Director
>> The Libertarian Party
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>> 
>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 11:20 AM john.phillips--- via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>> > Regarding this, is their any requirement we use the national zoom meeting
>> > space or can we set up our own?
>> >
>> > John Phillips
>> > Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
>> > Cell 217-412-5973
>> >
>> > On May 12, 2020 9:56 AM, Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Ms. Harlos,
>> >
>> > The convention begins on May 22, 2020, so regions would need to be formed
>> > no later than May 23, 2020. The fact that there is a second sitting
>> > planned
>> > in the motion passed by the LNC does not change that the initial gavel is
>> > of a convention and May 23 is the second day.
>> >
>> > I would also note that regional agreements can be formed now and the
>> > national staff would be happy to facilitate any regions that would like
>> to
>> > have a regional meeting in the virtual convention space in the time prior
>> > to the convention, as long as it doesn't conflict with testing, planning,
>> > or debate events that are using the space.
>> >
>> > Yours truly,
>> > Nick
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Our bylaws state this:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2. The National Committee shall be composed of the following members:
>> > >
>> > > a. the officers of the Party;
>> > >
>> > > b. five members elected at large by the delegates at a Regular
>> > Convention;
>> > > and
>> > >
>> > > c. any additional members as specified below:
>> > >
>> > > Any affiliate party with 10% or more of the total national party
>> > sustaining
>> > > membership
>> > >
>> > > within affiliate parties (as determined for delegate allocation) shall
>> > be
>> > > entitled to one
>> > >
>> > > National Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of
>> > > national
>> > >
>> > > sustaining membership. Affiliate parties may, by mutual consent, band
>> > > together to
>> > >
>> > > form "representative regions," and each such "region" with an aggregate
>> > > national
>> > >
>> > > party sustaining membership of 10% or more shall be entitled to one
>> > > National
>> > >
>> > > Committee representative and one alternate for each 10% of national
>> > party
>> > >
>> > > sustaining membership. "Representative regions" may be formed or
>> > dissolved
>> > > once
>> > >
>> > > every two years during a period beginning 90 days before the beginning
>> > of
>> > > and
>> > >
>> > > ending on the second day of the National Convention, and notice of new
>> > > formations
>> > >
>> > > or dissolutions must be given in writing to the national Secretary
>> prior
>> > to
>> > > the close of
>> > >
>> > > the Convention at which they take place.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > And the convention rules say this:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 4. In the event a region has not otherwise provided for the election of
>> > its
>> > > National
>> > >
>> > > Committee representation then the delegates from the region shall elect
>> > its
>> > > regional
>> > >
>> > > representative and alternate, provided there are at least five
>> delegates
>> > > present. Each
>> > >
>> > > Region's delegates may elect their representative and alternate in
>> > whatever
>> > > manner they
>> > >
>> > > choose, provided all delegates present from that region are given equal
>> > > voice in the
>> > >
>> > > selection.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Mr. Goldstein has let regionals know that they need to take care of
>> this
>> > by
>> > > this online convention.  I do not believe however that is the only
>> > > interpretation here and I lean towards the other one since the
>> > convention
>> > > referred to is the physical convention and election of the LNC is at
>> the
>> > > physical convention.  Though I could argue both ways.  But since LNC
>> > > elections are put off until then as there is not yet impracticability
>> > for
>> > > those, I think the regionals fall there too.  I think requiring the
>> > > regionals this month is not the fairest to the regional elections and
>> > could
>> > > result in some of our regional reps being off the LNC during this
>> > critical
>> > > time between sessions.  An exception was carved out ONLY for the top of
>> > the
>> > > ticket, thus I do not think it is the best interpretation to put the
>> > time
>> > > clock for regionals in that time frame.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Mr. Chair can you please advise on this ASAP?  I need to resend the
>> > > regional formation manual to the state chairs and I would like to
>> > clarify
>> > > this situation with them.
>> > >
>> > > *  In Liberty,*
>> > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>> > faux
>> > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
>> *
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> 


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