[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 200513-1 MOTION TO RESCIND MAY 9 MOTION DESCRIBED BELOW

Thu May 14 01:55:17 EDT 2020

Listen to Oklahoma.  They are dead right.  And I remind everyone it is not
us waffling -  A DECISION WAS MADE ON MAY 2.  It should have been over and
done with THEN.  In order to try to make everyone happy a compromise was
worked on, and then not honoured by our chair.  I am not going to lose a
minute of sleep of trying to stop the LNC from being played like a fiddle
and neither should you.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:51 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> I believe in a compromise.  I have floated an alternate compromise. But I
> concur with Mr. Smith.  I am voting yes.  If it is defeated, I will do my
> damnest to make the online thinking work, but I can do nothing about the
> flaws.  And it has been made clear to me that the chair is doing nothing to
> set me up for success in my role in that activity.  I will make the best
> our of a bad situation for this party and its members no matter what.  I am
> not entirely at peace with a yes vote on this without the other motion
> being passed but I am less at peace with pretending this online fiasco is a
> deliberative assembly.
>
> In any event, I will accept our decision and will not undermine or perform
> subterfuge.  This motion is the right way to challenge decisions.  Not
> social media scheming.  We need to preserve ballot access for GA and NH but
> why hasn't the chair authorized litigation there?  WHY??????    I urge us
> also to take the ball into our own hands and authorize that litigation.
> And to authorize the signing of the contract by any officer.  We have
> allowed these games to be played for too long.
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:38 PM joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
>> I'm an LNC member. I'm a current candidate for Chair of the LNC. I'm a
>> delegate to the national convention for California.
>>
>>
>> I didn't even recieve an email for this "test" convention. I wasn't able
>> to log in. Many other people have said the same. Zoom has a cap at 1k, and
>> we have 1046 delegates. People are not able to speak when they want to. It
>> is fraught with tech issues.
>>
>> This is not going to work, and with only ten days left, it's time to
>> admit that to ourselves and come up with something different.
>>
>>
>> For those reasons, I vote yes on this motion.
>>
>>
>> In liberty,
>> Joshua
>>
>> On May 13, 2020 11:59 PM, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Justin,
>>
>> As Caryn Ann has already noted, this is not a motion to "reconsider" but
>> is
>> instead a motion to "rescind" which has no constraints on who can move
>> it.
>>
>> If it were a motion to reconsider, there is only an eligibility
>> requirement
>> for the mover but not for the seconds, RONR p. 320:
>> "Must be seconded at the time it is made.  Unlike the making of the
>> motion,
>> which must be done by a person who voted with the prevailing side, the
>> seconding can be done by any member regardless of how he voted on the
>> motion to be reconsidered."
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 9:38 PM justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business <
>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I OBJECT
>> >
>> > I oppose this ballot being started prior to a ruling of the chair on my
>> > objection that it was not properly sponsored.
>> >
>> > Justin O'Donnell
>> > LNC Region 8 Representative
>> >
>> > On May 14, 2020 12:36 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > We have an electronic mail ballot.
>> >
>> > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 20 2020 at 11:59:59 pm
>> > Pacific time.
>> >
>> > Co-Sponsors:  Bilyeu, Harlos, Hewitt, Mattson, Smith
>> >
>> > =============================================
>> >
>> >
>> > Motion: Rescind in its entirety the motion adopted during the May 9,
>> 2020
>> > LNC
>> >
>> > meeting, which called for a convention to begin on May 22, 2020 with
>> >
>> > business conducted online.  Instead, in accordance with Bylaw Article
>> > 10.1,
>> >
>> > the LNC calls an in-person convention to occur during the dates of July
>> >
>> > 8-12, 2020 at Rosen Shingle Creek in Orlando, Florida.
>> >
>> > =============================================
>> >
>> > THRESHOLD REQUIRED:
>> >
>> >
>> > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
>> > https://tinyurl.com/ballot200513-1.  Votes are noted with a link to
>> the
>> > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
>> manual
>> > tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>> >
>> >
>> > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>> >
>> > *  In Liberty,*
>> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>> faux
>> > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
>> *
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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