[Lnc-business] Seeking Co-Sponsors - Alternative Compromise Motion

Thu May 14 13:57:06 EDT 2020

I am utterly shocked. This LNC gets more and more dysfunctional.

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:42 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Any state that did that would be rightly subject to disaffiliation by this
> body.
>
> I want our candidates to get nominated and take on tyranny and not have
> their legitimacy questioned.
>
> We need to get out of the way and let the state delegations ballot and
> report to us for tallying. They know their delegates and their interests
> far better than we do.
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 8:40 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for asking.  I am referring to the state chairs wanting to
> > eballoting their own delegations and report.
> >
> > I do not support any state jeopardizing our ticket.
> >
> > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 7:57 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Ms. Harlos,
> >>
> >> Can you clarify what you mean when you say, “Absent this, I support the
> >> revolt of the state chairs to take the mess into
> >> their own hands.”
> >>
> >> It appears you are suggesting that state affiliates refuse to place a
> >> nominee on the ballot if that nominee is selected at the online
> convention
> >> scheduled for May 22, 2020, in violation of their affiliate agreement
> with
> >> the Libertarian National Committee and against the interest of the
> >> Libertarian National Committee in having the Presidential nominee on as
> >> many state ballots as possible.
> >>
> >> Yours in liberty,
> >> Nick
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:02 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Absent this, I support the revolt of the state chairs to take the mess
> >> into
> >> > their own hands.
> >> >
> >> > We are jeopardizing our presidential ticket.
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 6:56 AM Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I will co-sponsor.
> >> > >
> >> > > ---
> >> > > Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> >> > > Libertarian National Committee
> >> > > 317-850-0726 Cell
> >> > >
> >> > > On 2020-05-14 01:04, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> > > > The LNC calls an in-person convention to be held in Orlando, FL at
> >> > > > Shingle
> >> > > > Creek, held from July 8th through July 12th. Further, the LNC will
> >> hold
> >> > > > a
> >> > > > binding preference poll. for the Presidential and
> Vice-Presidential
> >> > > > nominees only from among the delegates in a manner that mimics
> those
> >> > > > outlined in the Convention Special Rules of Order, Rule 10. The
> LNC
> >> > > > agrees
> >> > > > to be bound by the decision of the delegates and will fill the
> >> vacancy
> >> > > > under Article 14 Section 3 as the delegates have willed, and
> submit
> >> > > > that to
> >> > > > the in-person convention for ratification. This vote of the LNC
> will
> >> > > > take
> >> > > > place no later than June 8 2020. The rest of convention business
> >> will
> >> > > > take
> >> > > > place at the in-person convention noted above.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > *  In Liberty,*
> >> > > > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> Syndrome
> >> > > > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> > > > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >> anyone
> >> > > > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> social
> >> > > > faux
> >> > > > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
> >> know.
> >> > > > *
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:03 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> > > > <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> But you are correct on one point, I poorly worded something if
> the
> >> > > >> rescind passes.  Hold on, revised language.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> *  In Liberty,*
> >> > > >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> Syndrome
> >> > > >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> > > >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >> > > >> anyone
> >> > > >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> >> social
> >> > > >> faux
> >> > > >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
> >> know.
> >> > > >> *
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:02 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> >> > > >> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> Rescind is the proper procedure.  One thing I am confident of is
> >> that
> >> > > >>> Ms.
> >> > > >>> Mattson knows the proper procedure, and in this, I concur with
> her
> >> > > >>> judgment.
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> *  In Liberty,*
> >> > > >>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> > > >>> Syndrome
> >> > > >>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> > > >>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >> > > >>> anyone
> >> > > >>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> >> social
> >> > > >>> faux
> >> > > >>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
> >> know.
> >> > > >>>  *
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:57 PM <john.phillips at lp.org> wrote:
> >> > > >>>
> >> > > >>>> Rescind. Sorry. Its late.
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> John Phillips
> >> > > >>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > > >>>> Cell 217-412-5973
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> On May 13, 2020 11:57 PM, john.phillips at lp.org wrote:
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> Do we have to rescind the previous  for this one? Or can we
> move
> >> to
> >> > > >>>> amend? I would prefer to just skip to the move to amend.  I am
> >> > > >>>> afraid a
> >> > > >>>> reconsider will make matters worse not better.
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> John Phillips
> >> > > >>>> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> >> > > >>>> Cell 217-412-5973
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> On May 13, 2020 11:51 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> > > >>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> If this is sponsored, I will be voting yes on the Mattson
> motion
> >> and
> >> > > >>>> yes
> >> > > >>>> on
> >> > > >>>> this one and urge my colleagues to do the same.  This is an
> >> actual
> >> > > >>>> compromise that cannot be subverted by any member of the LNC.
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> *  In Liberty,*
> >> > > >>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> > > >>>> Syndrome
> >> > > >>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> > > >>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
> If
> >> > > >>>> anyone
> >> > > >>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> >> social
> >> > > >>>> faux
> >> > > >>>> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
> >> > > >>>> know.  *
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:49 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <
> >> > > >>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> >> > > >>>> wrote:
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>> >
> >> > > >>>> > Without amending the decision to call an in-person convention
> >> to
> >> > be
> >> > > >>>> held
> >> > > >>>> > in Orlando, FL at Shingle Creek, held from July 8th through
> >> July
> >> > > 12th,
> >> > > >>>> LNC
> >> > > >>>> > will hold a binding preference poll. for the Presidential and
> >> > > >>>> > Vice-Presidential nominees only from among the delegates in a
> >> > manner
> >> > > >>>> that
> >> > > >>>> > mimics those outlined in the Convention Special Rules of
> Order,
> >> > Rule
> >> > > >>>> 10.
> >> > > >>>> > The LNC agrees to be bound by the decision of the delegates
> and
> >> > will
> >> > > >>>> fill
> >> > > >>>> > the vacancy under Article 14 Section 3 as the delegates have
> >> > willed,
> >> > > >>>> and
> >> > > >>>> > submit that to the in-person convention for ratification.
> This
> >> > vote
> >> > > of
> >> > > >>>> the
> >> > > >>>> > LNC will take place no later than June 8 2020.
> >> > > >>>> >
> >> > > >>>> > *  In Liberty,*
> >> > > >>>> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> >> > > Syndrome
> >> > > >>>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect
> inter-personal
> >> > > >>>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.
> >> If
> >> > > >>>> anyone
> >> > > >>>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other
> >> > social
> >> > > >>>> faux
> >> > > >>>> > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let
> me
> >> > > know.
> >> > > >>>> *
> >> > > >>>> >
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > > >>>>
> >> > >
> >> > --
> >> >
> >> > *  In Liberty,*
> >> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> >> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> anyone
> >> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> >> faux
> >> > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me
> know.  *
> >> >
> >>
> > --
> >
> > *In Liberty,*
> >
> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> > pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
> >
> > --
>
> *  In Liberty,*
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.  *
>