[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 200513-1 MOTION TO RESCIND MAY 9 MOTION DESCRIBED BELOW

[Francis Wendt]

I thought there wasn't supposed to be debate on email ballots. I may be 
wrong, but as the Secretary is actually the one tabulating the ballot is 
it not improper to engage in debate as an active motion is out for vote? 
There have been calls on the chairs actions. The Secretary is a little 
over the line in my opinion.

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FRANCIS WENDT
LNC Region 1 Alternate
  406.595.5111

On 2020-05-14 12:59, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> The state chairs in general I have spoken to object to the entire 
> process
> even if it worked properly.
> 
> They are self-organizing to present the LNC a resolution that I will
> support pretty much no matter what it says.
> 
> Since we do not have a viable alternative that will give a solution and
> this would bring us back to zero I withdraw my vote and change to 
> abstain .
> 
> I do not support the procedure we are using.  I do however support the
> compromise.
> 
> I can’t go back to zero without having a plan b.  But I also cannot 
> grant
> my approval to the process we are now doing which the state chairs also
> oppose.
> 
> An abstain at this point represents my feelings.
> 
> I do not believe the LNC is capable (nor at this point terribly 
> concerned
> about) member rights.  I don’t think what the state chairs will propose 
> is
> perfect either.
> 
> But I do know that the state chairs know what’s best for their 
> delegations
> more than we do.
> 
> A yes vote without an alternative destroys the compromise and I gave my
> word.
> 
> A no vote supports the status quo and that is equally abhorrent as 
> breaking
> my word.
> 
> My abstain is my vote FOR the state chairs and telling us to back off 
> and
> let them lead.
> 
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:47 PM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> I vote no.
>> 
>> We have to remember that these test runs are just that, tests. We're
>> finding out what works for us and what doesn't (the Yes/No buttons), 
>> and
>> I expect the next test will be more fine-tuned using the experiences
>> gathered from the previous test runs.
>> 
>> ---
>> Tim Hagan
>> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>> 
>> On 2020-05-13 21:36, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > We have an electronic mail ballot.
>> >
>> > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 20 2020 at 11:59:59 pm
>> > Pacific time.
>> >
>> > Co-Sponsors:  Bilyeu, Harlos, Hewitt, Mattson, Smith
>> >
>> > =============================================
>> >
>> >
>> > Motion: Rescind in its entirety the motion adopted during the May 9,
>> > 2020
>> > LNC
>> >
>> > meeting, which called for a convention to begin on May 22, 2020 with
>> >
>> > business conducted online.  Instead, in accordance with Bylaw Article
>> > 10.1,
>> >
>> > the LNC calls an in-person convention to occur during the dates of July
>> >
>> > 8-12, 2020 at Rosen Shingle Creek in Orlando, Florida.
>> >
>> > =============================================
>> >
>> > THRESHOLD REQUIRED:
>> >
>> >
>> > You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
>> > https://tinyurl.com/ballot200513-1.  Votes are noted with a link to the
>> > actual ballot cast for verification. You can find the time that the
>> > manual
>> > tally was last updated at the bottom of the sheet.
>> >
>> >
>> > Please notify me of any discrepancies.
>> >
>> > *  In Liberty,*
>> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
>> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
>> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
>> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
>> > faux
>> > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
>> > *
>>