[Lnc-business] Election Buddy in tonight's test run

[Whitney Bilyeu]

Good catch, Alicia. Ballots should only go to those we know are
participating as voting DELEGATES at the time.



On Sat, May 16, 2020, 12:22 AM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> I also noted something with the Q&A box is that items which were deemed to
> be not privileged etc were just dismissed.  I didn't disagree with any of
> those decisions, but the body has a right to see that or they cannot know
> if rights are being violated or objections silenced.  They should not be
> expected to simply trust.  As I said, every decision seemed right to me,
> but I don't have the right to waive that right for everyone else to be able
> to see for themselves.
>
> Dan is getting with me tomorrow to turn over the projection duties to me.
> However, I did not get an answer as to why this wasn't assigned to me in
> the first place.  I will ask tomorrow.  I would hope that it is not
> unreasonable for an officer to expect to get an answer when a question is
> asked of staff.  I think Dan is doing a bang-up job.  But I have yet to be
> invited to any training or planning session by staff for this convention
> despite my multiple requests to be kept in the loop.  I had to learn about
> OpaVote's issues when the rest of the members did.
>
> I thank Ms. Bilyeu for bringing up at the meeting that I was being pretty
> obviously pushed aside.  Publicly.  I know that things have been tense and
> right now the chair and I are not BFF but we should expect everyone to be
> allowed to do their jobs and to be treated professionally.  I don't feel I
> was.  And by the end of the night, the dozens of messages I got from
> members asking me the same question, this really bothered a lot of people,
> some of them most definitely not my personal supporters but people who
> respected the office who felt that the office was being disrespected.
>
> And just like I asked about the partiality of the chair in a message
> earlier this week in that social media poll, I expect I will get the same
> answer for this.  The Verizon pin drop.  And the fact that most of the LNC
> seems to think this ignoring of direct questions is acceptable by their
> silence is just as troubling.  When EVH was blatantly disrespected during
> the May 2 meeting by waving her hand and being passed over multiple times,
> I spoke out about that despite the fact that she and I were on the opposite
> side of that motion.  She had a right to be heard.  I have a right to not
> be ignored regarding valid questions.  Ever since the concerned LNC members
> sent out that letter last October with concerns that was ignored by the
> rest of the LNC, it seems like we care more about not making waves than
> doing the oversight that is our job.  There is not a person here I would
> not stand up for if they were being ignored in the discharge of their
> duties and my past actions on behalf of those who might be opposite me on
> issues proves that.
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:55 PM Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business <
> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> > By the way, I was attempting to raise a point of order about this matter
> in
> > the Q&A box, which is where we were instructed to raise privileged
> motions,
> > but it was never addressed by the chair.  From my limited-by-admins
> > perspective, it felt like I was being ignored.  I am told by my
> delegation
> > chair who could see the Q&A that it had lots of other posts in it, and it
> > could have been lost in the noise.
> >
> > The Q&A box tonight was a mystery that I noted, and others noted, but
> there
> > was never a good explanation for the selective/restricted view that the
> > participants had of that information.  Out of all the traffic that was
> > apparently in the Q&A box, I only ever saw about 15 seemingly-random
> items
> > posted by others.  I have no idea what the rhyme or reason was for which
> > things I could or couldn't see.
> >
> > -Alicia
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 9:43 PM Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I need to point out something important from the Election Buddy voting
> > > software which was demonstrated during tonight's test run.
> > >
> > > RONR p. 263 notes that it is "a fundamental principle of parliamentary
> > law
> > > that the right to vote is limited to the members of an organization who
> > are
> > > actually present at the time the vote is taken in a regular or properly
> > > called meeting."
> > >
> > > Yet the Election Buddy vote conducted during tonight's test sent
> ballots
> > > to all delegates, not just those who were actually present in the
> > meeting.
> > > The shared screens weren't visible for that long for me to catch the
> > > details, but it probably also went to the alternates in addition to the
> > > delegates, since the one emailed to us earlier today had over 1300
> > > recipients and not just 1046.
> > >
> > > Obviously in a live scenario, it must be limited to only whoever was
> > > present and eligible to vote at that time, which could be a blend of
> > > delegates and alternates.
> > >
> > > Again I'm going to emphasize that Convention Rule 10 requires that when
> > > votes are submitted by delegation, the delegates must vote with written
> > > ballots which are submitted so as to constitute an audit trail.  The
> > > chair's instructions on these test runs for delegation chairs to
> collect
> > > their votes however they wish is not compliant with our rules.  We'll
> > have
> > > no audit trail when it's being done 51 different ways.
> > >
> > > Since we're being placed in webinar mode, I have no way of knowing
> > whether
> > > there are 2 or 30 delegates present at the meeting from any given
> > > affiliate.  Only a delegation chair knows.  This plan makes it VERY
> EASY
> > > for a theoretically naughty delegation chair (not mine - 'cause Mimi is
> > > awesome and trustworthy!!) to stuff extra votes into the submitted
> > tallies
> > > without anyone noticing.
> > >
> > > -Alicia
> > >
> > >
> >
>