[Lnc-business] One-Question LP Convention Survey

Tue May 26 19:11:43 EDT 2020

Mr. Wendt is correct.  That is not what I was chagrined about.  I was
chagrined about being ambushed by people who are not gracious in defeat.  I
have spoken to Mr. Hayes and my perspective has been set aright.

There is a proverb that says, one man seems right until another pleads his
case.

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
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On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 4:35 PM Francis Wendt <francis.wendt at lp.org> wrote:

> It doesn't matter when they open. As I have said multiple times, the
> delegates moved to adjourn to that location and time. This information
> doesn't change the ability for the LNC and the hotel to enter into the
> contract. And the LNC can only change course if that date and location
> become impossible per the Hayes adjournment. That they will be open at
> that designated time means that it is not, if fact, impossible.
>
> ---
> FRANCIS WENDT
> LNC Region 1 Alternate
>   406.595.5111
>
> On 2020-05-26 16:14, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > I’m really tired of having to learn these things on social media
> >
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:44 PM Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business <
> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Caryn Ann,
> >>
> >> I can confirm they pushed back their opening. If you go to their site
> >> to
> >> make a reservation prior to the 30th of June you get the notice
> >> message.
> >>
> >> So the hotel will be open for only 1 week before we get there. Did the
> >> hotel communicate that to the COC prior to our meeting last night?
> >>
> >> Richard Longstreth
> >> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, HI, KS, MT, NM, OR, UT, WA, WY)
> >> Libertarian National Committee
> >> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> >> 931.538.9300
> >>
> >> Sent from my Mobile Device
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 26, 2020, 11:27 Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Now I'm getting messages from people concerned that the survey won't
> be
> >> > confidential.
> >> >
> >> > Alicia, when you set up the survey, did you set it up so people can be
> >> > identified?  Or, anonymous responses?   As survey monkey can be done
> >> > either way.
> >> >
> >> > People are also asking how did you get the email list of delegates and
> >> > alternates?  Understanding that you replied:  "I used the list after
> the
> >> > Credentials Committee's final meeting,.."
> >> >
> >> > How did you get that list?  Does the COC have access to the
> Credentials
> >> > Committee email list?
> >> >
> >> > Please reply to these questions.  As I'm fielding these questions in
> >> > messenger and I don't have the answers for the people asking.
> >> >
> >> > EVH
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> >> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 2020-05-26 13:36, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> > > As with the debate tokens we sent out before, it might take 24 hours
> >> > > for
> >> > > some of these to pop out of the internet and into people's inboxes.
> >> > > The
> >> > > deadline is tomorrow evening, so there's time for that to happen.
> As
> >> > > always, if an email isn't in an inbox, look in spam, even look in
> the
> >> > > trash
> >> > > folder as some people found the debate tokens there.
> >> > >
> >> > > I used the list after the Credentials Committee's final meeting, and
> >> > > though
> >> > > debate tokens only went to delegates, this attendance question was
> sent
> >> > > to
> >> > > delegates and alternates on that list.  It will not, of course, have
> >> > > the
> >> > > three names added on the final day.
> >> > >
> >> > > It's not a vote/token that determines or heavily influences our
> >> > > presidential nominees.  A handful of the alternates' email addresses
> >> > > had
> >> > > similar issues to what I previously described with the delegates
> email
> >> > > addresses, however I'm not going to spend the extensive amount of
> time
> >> > > I
> >> > > did before to make sure that everyone gets to participate.  As I
> >> > > suggested
> >> > > last night, the goal here is to get a solid representative sample,
> and
> >> > > then
> >> > > extrapolate the results to the whole.  We've already got a really
> great
> >> > > response rate, so I think in the end we'll have reasonable
> confidence
> >> > > in
> >> > > what to expect.
> >> > >
> >> > > The decisions the COC makes on Thursday night about financial risks
> >> > > will be
> >> > > much more informed with less guessing.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Alicia
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 10:17 AM Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via
> >> > > Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Alicia mentioned in the chat during the COC meeting we all attended
> >> > >> early
> >> > >> on about her sending it out the next day and no one objected at
> that
> >> > >> time.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Email is generally a bad way to mass communicate in today’s world
> of
> >> > >> spam
> >> > >> filters and firewalls, but there really isn’t a better way on short
> >> > >> notice.
> >> > >> I received it and I didn’t see anything particularly objectionable
> >> > >> about
> >> > >> the wording.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Ideal world all delegates would be reachable on a reliable platform
> >> > >> LPHQ
> >> > >> administrates kinda of like the LP slack channel which people can
> join
> >> > >> at
> >> > >> LP.org/chat.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Alex Merced
> >> > >> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > On May 26, 2020, at 12:58 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn via
> Lnc-business <
> >> > >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Why this matters:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 1)  Not all delegates and alternates are getting the survey.
> >> > >> > 2)  Those who wanted the survey were not consulted on language or
> >> > >> anything about the survey.
> >> > >> > 3)  The survey should have been sent from LPHQ.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > ---
> >> > >> > Elizabeth Van Horn
> >> > >> > LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >> On 2020-05-26 12:41, Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> > >> >> I'm seeing people say they did not get the survey that was sent
> to
> >> > >> >> delegates and alternates.
> >> > >> >> Some delegates and alternates are saying this.  Then, I was
> >> > surprised to
> >> > >> >> learn that Alicia Mattson sent out that survey.  Without input
> from
> >> > >> >> others on the wording.
> >> > >> >> Survey went out at 4:30 AM for us in eastern time.  Likely to be
> >> > buried
> >> > >> >> by the time people look at their in-box.  Hell, I didn't even
> know
> >> it
> >> > >> >> was there, until I saw Sam post something on FB.  Then I started
> >> > >> >> alerting people about it.  Already seeing people question why
> the
> >> > survey
> >> > >> >> is worded the way it is.
> >> > >> >> How things are done matter.  I'm not happy about this.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
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