[Lnc-business] LP members personal emails-How is this shared?

Wed May 27 12:17:17 EDT 2020

Mr. Smith, 

I posed two questions to you and provided information to this board. You
deflected those questions. That tells me all I need to know, thank you.

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FRANCIS WENDT
LNC Region 1 Alternate
 406.595.5111 

On 2020-05-27 08:14, joshua.smith at lp.org wrote:

> Francis, 
> 
> Either levy an accusation, or move on. Campaigns are allowed to share data (I bet we sure hope that Jo's campaign shares data with us). I have not worked in an unethical manner here, and I'd appreciate you either bringing legitimate accusation if that's what you're here to do, or desisting of making you're own speculations on the public business list. Seems to me that you're trying to get some political expediency points to cover that people are calling Nick out for OBVIOUS unethical tactics.  
> 
> Thanks, 
> Joshua  
> 
> On May 26, 2020 10:50 PM, Francis Wendt <francis.wendt at lp.org> wrote:
> 
> All, 
> 
> I would like to point out that I asked for the emails to the Region 1 delegates and alternates to facilitate the survey I conducted which was entered into the record at our May 9 meeting. 
> 
> I was denied by Ms. Hogarth and I accepted that, and then worked through the state and delegate chairs to still garner a list of about 70 responses. 
> 
> Mr. Smith, did it not occur to you that the list was not public knowledge, and that as a member of the LNC you should have attempted to ascertain why confidential information was being distributed rather than use it for you chair campaign? 
> 
> You talk about the deplorable acts of the chair and his need to resign, but I ask in earnest, have you ever heard of a duty of loyalty required of non-profit boards? 
> 
> For convenience I find the following article informative: 
> 
> https://nonprofitquarterly.org/nonprofit-board-governance-responsibilities-basic-guide/ 
> 
> If anyone else wants to take a few notes on this article I highly suggest it, because this is the standard of operations in any board room across the country. If we want to be taken seriously, we must act professionally. 
> 
> In other words Mr. Smith, if you can tell me that you have acted in all of these capacities referenced all of the time, I will sincerely apologize. Otherwise, dwellers of glass domiciles might want to desist in lobbing rock. 
> 
> I know I am preaching again, and I apologize to the body and the delegates reading this public list, but I for one will be immensely relieved when this LNC term ends on July 12, 2020. 
> 
> respectfully, 
> 
> FRANCIS WENDT
> LNC Region 1 Alternate
> 406.595.5111 
> 
> On 2020-05-26 21:17, joshua.smith--- via Lnc-business wrote: 
> 
> The CAN-SPAM act applies to commercial messages from businesses advertising new merch. Seeing as I was offering no services on behalf of a business, there is no violation.  
> 
> Here is the actual language for reference: 
> 
> https://www.ftc.gov/tips-advice/business-center/guidance/can-spam-act-compliance-guide-business 
> 
> I've shared no personally identifiable info with anyone. I recieved the list from a POTUS candidate who received it from another party member after asking for it(as I understood it). I've told relevent people about it.  
> 
> Furthermore, I've not used anything that I personally took from the party. Im not in any violation of the policy manual, and you're wrong.  
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Joshua D. Smith  
> 
> On May 26, 2020 9:28 PM, "justin.odonnell--- via Lnc-business" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
> The CAN-SPAM Act prohibits sending of mass emails to addresses that were not opted into the service, while falsely claiming that they were. For starters. 
> 
> Mr. Smith's email included the language " 
> "You are receiving this email because you opted in via our website." 
> 
> This is a deliberate misrepresentation of the source of the contact information, and such a violation is subject to a $40,000 fine from the FCC should a member who recieved it choose to make a report about it.  
> 
> Also, per section 3.03 of the policy manual, section 2, the stipulations of the standard NDA we have signed prohibit the sharing of Personally identifiable information and data with any candidate for internal office that would grant an advantadge. So not only would you be in violation of your NDA, whoever shared the information with you would be as well, and you have a fiduciary duty to inform the LNC if you know the source of the information leaked.  
> 
> Furthermore, section 2.09 of the policy manual, section 6, expressly prohibits the use of party resources to support an internal election for party office, by using the information provided, you blatantly and clearly violated the policy manual amd abused party resources as a member of the National committee.  
> 
> I once again, ask you to name the source that leaked the information to you, and if you choose not to, than to tender your resignation as a member of this board, as you are clearly unwilling to abide by the standards we have agreed to set for ourselves with the policy manual, and have acted with gross neglect of your responsibilities as a member of the LNC. 
> Justin O'Donnell
> LNC Region 8 Representative 
> 
> On May 26, 2020 9:53 PM, "john.phillips--- via Lnc-business" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
> I would like Mr Smith to answer the question about where the list was obtained. 
> 
> Particularly because there was a discussion in one of the delegates groups regarding it in which he said delegate lists were available for internal candidates by asking.  It was unclear whether that included email addresses or not.   
> 
> Full disclosure, I supported at least some of that statement because I received mail and txts from candidates preceding the convention. I can even point to where the data came from because it went to an address my state party mistakenly got hold of that is my fathers new house that I have never lived at, but was listed as a shipping address on my paypal that I used to make a donation to our state party.  Which the state then gave as my delegate information to national and I had to call Mr Fishman to correct the email. 
> 
> So it is apparent that some info is being given, perhaps some went out mistakenly I do not know, but an answer to the question IS important to track down the issue. 
> 
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973 
> 
> On May 26, 2020 8:38 PM, Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm almost certain it was #1 (delegation chairs). I've spoken with several campaigns. I will write up a report if needed, but I know that the list of all delegates with full contact info was sent to 51 delegation chairs to be prepared for the convention. One or more of those chairs is almost certainly the person who shared the list. I'm not sure we can ever really trace such a leak. We should focus on what we can do moving forward.   
> 
> The situation is further complicated by the fact that some campaigns worked very diligently to gather emails legitimately through effort and expense, and now they will be tarred by the same brush.   
> 
> Susan Jane Hogarth 
> 
> Region 5 Alternate 
> 
> 919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106) 
> 
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>> On May 26, 2020 at 9:07 PM,  <Daniel Fishman via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org)>  wrote: 
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>> Two guesses from me. #1 I shared the list with delegation chairs on Friday so they could validate that zoom invites and election buddy invites were going to the right places. #2 the email list of delegates was used by the CoC to send out the Vice Presidential token survey. --- Daniel Fishman Executive Director The Libertarian Party Join Us  <http://www.lp.org/join>  On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:00 PM Elizabeth Van Horn via Lnc-business  <  lnc-business at hq.lp.org>  wrote:  >  I've been asked by a Region 3 member to find out how Joshua Smith got  >  their personal email address. As this person got an email Sunday at  >  4:11 PM from Smith.  >   >  The same email came to my personal email, but had forgotten about it  >  until this member asked. I'm also curious as to how my personal email  >  was obtained, to be used for LNC campaign emails. There was also a  >  flood of POTUS campaign email to my personal email inbox over the  >  weekend.  >   >  Is LP HQ sharing LP members personal
emails? If so, under what  >  circumstances?  >   >  --  >  Elizabeth Van Horn  >  LNC Region 3 Representative (IN, MI, OH, KY)  >   
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