[Lnc-business] EMAIL BALLOT 200531-1 APPEAL FROM THE RULING OF THE CHAIR CONCERNING REMOVAL OF DANIEL HAYES FROM THE COC

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Sat Jun 6 14:45:26 EDT 2020


Ahh since this is a ballot rather than a voice vote I think you are correct
Mr Hagan.  Although RONR is referring to a secret ballot because the
overriding concern is protecting the impartiality of the chair.

But since it is a ballot and we as an organization disfavor secret ballots,
I withdraw my objection.

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 12:39 PM Tim Hagan via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Doesn't this change when the vote has a specific closing time, as our
> Bylaws have for email ballots? Would the Chair have extra time past the
> seven days period for voting given in the Bylaws. I'll refer to RONR p.
> 414, lines 25-28, which is in the section covering voting by ballot:
>
> "The presiding officer, if a member of the assembly, can always vote in
> the case of a ballot at the time other members do. Should he fail to
> vote before the polls are closed, he cannot then do so without the
> permission of the assembly."
>
> ---
> Tim Hagan
> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>
> On 2020-06-06 10:59, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
> > Mr Sarwark I confirmed with the RONR priesthood at the Roberts forum
> > that
> > my understanding was correct that the chair does not vote except if it
> > changes the results.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 11:51 AM <joshua.smith at lp.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I vote no on this motion. Someone told me that I voted yes initially,
> >> but
> >> I cannot find that vote anywhere. Regardless I vote no.
> >>
> >>
> >> -Joshua
> >>
> >> On Jun 6, 2020 9:36 AM, Jeff Hewitt via Lnc-business <
> >> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> I vote no. Jeff Hewitt Region 4 Rep
> >>
> >> On 2020-06-06 00:01, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> > I vote no.
> >> >
> >> > -Alicia
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 1:18 PM Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
> >> > lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> EMAIL BALLOT 200531-1  APPEAL FROM THE RULING OF THE CHAIR CONCERNING
> >> >> REMOVAL OF DANIEL HAYES FROM THE COC
> >> >>
> >> >> We have an electronic mail ballot.
> >> >>
> >> >> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by June 7, 2020 at 11:59:59 pm
> >> >> Pacific time.
> >> >>
> >> >> Co-Sponsors:  Goldstein, Harlos, Longstreth, Phillips, Smith
> >> >>
> >> >> =============================================
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Motion: The Chair has ruled he can not only remove Daniel Hayes as
> CoC
> >> >> chair but also from the committee entirely.  Harlos appeals from the
> >> >> ruling
> >> >> of the chair that he can remove Hayes from the committee without CoC
> >> >> approval since appointment required CoC approval.
> >> >>
> >> >> =============================================
> >> >>
> >> >> THRESHOLD REQUIRED:  A majority vote is required to overturn the
> >> >> ruling of
> >> >> the chair.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VntkXkkuQouUiWbt9bnI_TjSMKDiTaDDpvsYtTmJdhE/edit#gid=1053534570
> >> >> .
> >> >> Votes are noted with a link to the actual ballot cast for
> >> >> verification. You
> >> >> can find the time that the manual tally was last updated at the
> bottom
> >> >> of
> >> >> the sheet.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Please notify me of any discrepancies.
> >> >>
> >> >> *  In Liberty,*
> >> >> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's
> Syndrome
> >> >> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> >> >> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If
> >> >> anyone
> >> >> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> >> >> faux
> >> >> pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
> >> >> *
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >
> > *  In Liberty,*
> > * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
> > (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
> > communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
> > found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social
> > faux
> > pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.
> > *
>
-- 

*In Liberty,*

* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas), please contact me privately and let me know. *


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