[Lnc-business] Message from the Convention Oversight Committee Chair re: the pending votes

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

I find it very odd that Ms. Ryan is so zealous in this.  I also find it
very untoward that message shitting on volunteers keep getting posted to
the open list.  It is gross AF.

*In Liberty,*

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On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:35 PM Sam Goldstein via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Bullshit.  We never had a chance to even discuss adding Jim to the COC
> before Nick appointed him without the recommendation of the COC as
> required by the policy manual.  I think we all like and respect Jim and
> regret that Nick saw fit to use him in his litter power games without
> his consent.
>
> Thankfully the choice is not in your hands or Nick's anymore.  The LNC
> has voted 15-1 to change the policy manual language on COC appointments
> and any changes to the COC are now in their hands.
>
>
>
> ---
> Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
> Libertarian National Committee
> Convention Oversight Committee
> 317-850-0726 Cell
>
> On 2020-06-07 17:23, BetteRose via Lnc-business wrote:
> > I never said that I spoke for anyone but myself and everything I said
> > was true to my knowledge.  I have said many times that I disagree with
> > Daniel being on the committee for the reasons I outline.  I did say he
> > could be a volunteer.
> > And I asked Sam to ask Daniel, when Daniel was not speaking to me, to
> > get the speakers' list from Daniel. I asked him three times in the
> > meeting for that same list. He did the same thing in 2016 and sent us
> > way over on the speakers' budget without our committee's consent. I am
> > concern he will do the same here.
> > Having Daniel sit in on our meetings is different then having him on
> > the CoC which again, I have spoken against and in fact added Jim
> > Turney as requested. Not one on the CoC objected to that.
> > BetteRose RyanPublisherBent Briar Publishing
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Whitney Bilyeu <whitney.bilyeu at lp.org>
> > To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > Cc: Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org>; Bette Rose Ryan
> > <betterose at aol.com>
> > Sent: Sun, Jun 7, 2020 2:32 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Message from the Convention Oversight
> > Committee Chair re: the pending votes
> >
> > BetteRose Ryan does not speak for this member of the COC committee.
> > Period. I speak for myself.
> > BetteRose, as the Chair of the COC, should probably address these
> > things with the actual COC....considering that we have been in
> > conversations with her throughout every day since she was named Chair
> > of the COC. She has not expressed this sentiment to us. On the
> > contrary, she has said she was happy to have to Daniel continue to
> > work with speakers, etc...
> > So, there is clearly a disconnect between what she is saying to
> > individual LNC members, and what she is saying to the COC (the
> > committee she chairs now).
> > She has the same access to this list that other non-LNC members have.
> > I will copy her on my reply to make sure.
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 3:06 PM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business
> > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Ms. Ryan asked me to share this with you, as she does not have posting
> > privileges to this list, as four of her other colleagues on the
> > Convention
> > Oversight Committee do.
> >
> > Yours in liberty,
> > Nick
> >
> >
> > ***
> >
> > “I can't believe the LNC may actually leave Daniel Hayes on the
> > convention
> > committee simply to stick it to the LNC chairman.
> >
> > First Daniel constantly is abusive, yelling at his committee and the
> > staff;
> > he yelled at a staff member mean enough he had her in tears. (I got
> > this
> > first hand). He yelled at a committee member who finally had enough and
> > yell at him that she didn't give up her night to sit in on a
> > F*&*&**meeting
> > to be F*&*& * yelled at. He is also abusive to the people he needs to
> > deal
> > with on our behalf.
> >
> > For the last four months he and others on the committee have committee
> > to
> > undermine the LNC Chair and the LNC itself.
> >
> > He negotiated a contract that left the party with a huge liability risk
> > even though the LNC chair and others warned about the risk.
> > (Fortunately I
> > was able to negotiate a much better contract.)
> >
> > He also spoke about 'bullying' a hotel staffer into giving us another
> > room
> > recently. This is not the way to represent our party. It is not how I
> > do
> > business.
> >
> > He said, one time, recently that he was ready to tell John Stossel's
> > people
> > to pound sand because he didn't like the 'tone' of voice they used.
> >
> > He pushed to have the POTUS nomination at the openly said he didn't
> > care if
> > some states couldn't make the ballot if we elected our candidates too
> > late.
> > It was more important to "have a great" in person convention.
> >
> > Our LNC Chairman removed someone from the convention oversight
> > committee
> > who is so abusive that I almost quit. Now the LNC is considering
> > putting
> > this person back on the committee? Are they not concerned with the
> > liability? What happens if he yells at the wrong person? Will we be
> > sued?”
> > -BetteRose Ryan
>