[Lnc-business] Providing the recording of the June 15 Convention Oversight Committee meeting to the Executive Director

[Sam Goldstein]

There were four members of the Executive Committee and several other LNC
members/alternates on that call and not one has alleged any kind of
Policy Manual violation.  This is entirely a tempest in a teapot which
had died down for lack of interest until the Chair's belated attempt at
involvement.  

Of course it is the Chair's prerogative to initiate an email ballot so
we must proceed unless he withdraws his motion.   I would like to know
the Chair's plan for an investigation of whatever is being alleged here
since the Policy Manual makes it clear that the Executive Director has
no role in such an investigation and there is no Chair of the Judicial
Committee at this time.  (PM pg 23). 

Come to think of it, the motion of the Chair is actually out of order
since he would be the one to receive the recording in question, not Mr.
Fishman.  The COC is entirely within the Policy Manual to refuse to
release a recording to someone not authorized to investigate this
matter.

---
Sam Goldstein, At Large Member
Libertarian National Committee
Convention Oversight Committee
317-850-0726 Cell 

On 2020-06-22 19:16, john.phillips--- via Lnc-business wrote:

> I didn't see anyone opposing an investigation.  I did see some people questioning what the correct path for investigation is, and whether that path included Mr Fishman, or should have been the chair and/or vice chair. 
> 
> I myself pointed out that given recent events, that impartiality from some might be difficult and suggested Mr Merced and perhaps the EPCC would be the correct path.
> 
> Mr Merced has been investigating, and responded with some of his findings in the off list discussion on the subject. 
> 
> I would also point out that the chair has often of late taken up to a week to respond to things - this included, so creating an issue when someone has n).ot responded to an email sent the same day seems a touch ... questionable. 
> 
> If the motion becomes necessary after a reasonable amount of time, like 24-36 hours, then I would still suggest that the investigation be pursued by the people I mentioned above. 
> 
> John Phillips
> Libertarian National Committee Region 6 Representative
> Cell 217-412-5973 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2020 1:28 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> 
>> Or perhaps more appropriately, Mr. Moellman should send to you.  You can 
>> then do with it as you wish. 
>> 
>> *In Liberty,* 
>> 
>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome 
>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal 
>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone 
>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux 
>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * 
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:27 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> 
>> wrote: 
>> 
>>> I will start that ballot after I get off work. 
>>> 
>>> For the record, you had not weighed in before.  Now that you have, I 
>>> believe Mr. Moellman should release the tape.  Agree or not with  your 
>>> decision, you do have the authority to request release of the recording 
>>> IMHO. 
>>> 
>>> *In Liberty,* 
>>> 
>>> * Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome 
>>> (part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal 
>>> communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone 
>>> found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux 
>>> pas), please contact me privately and let me know. * 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Nicholas Sarwark via Lnc-business < 
>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> Dear All, 
>>>> 
>>>> The Convention Oversight Committee met one week ago, on June 15 via Zoom. 
>>>> Mr. Moellman arranged the Zoom meeting room and recorded the proceedings. 
>>>> All LNC members were invited to attend the meeting, along with Libertarian 
>>>> Party staff. 
>>>> 
>>>> Following the meeting, the Executive Director, Dan Fishman, made a request 
>>>> to the Chair of the Convention Oversight Committee, BetteRose Ryan, for a 
>>>> copy of the recording for his review, as he was not in attendance on June 
>>>> 15. Ms. Ryan requested that Mr. Moellman provide the recording to Mr. 
>>>> Fishman. Mr. Moellman did not provide the recording as directed by the 
>>>> Chair of the Convention Oversight Committee, but instead asked other 
>>>> members of the Convention Oversight Committee whether he should provide 
>>>> the 
>>>> recording. Members of that committee objected to providing the recording 
>>>> and it was not provided. 
>>>> 
>>>> There are concerns that there was a Policy Manual violation during that 
>>>> meeting, something the Executive Director is required to inform the Chair 
>>>> of the LNC about and investigate in as confidential a manner as possible. 
>>>> If Mr. Fishman had received the recording, it would allow for that 
>>>> investigation to proceed appropriately. Without the recording, 
>>>> investigating is much more difficult. 
>>>> 
>>>> Earlier today, I sent an email as Chair of the Libertarian National 
>>>> Committee directing Mr. Moellman to send the recording to Mr. Fishman. Mr. 
>>>> Moellman has not done so, nor responded to my email. My understanding is 
>>>> that members of the Convention Oversight Committee would rather nobody be 
>>>> able to review the recording and are claiming some right of 
>>>> confidentiality 
>>>> over its contents, though there is no legal, bylaws, or policy manual 
>>>> authority that has been put forward that has been offered to support this 
>>>> claim.  Even if confidential contract information was discussed, the 
>>>> Executive Director is privy to those details by virtue of his role. 
>>>> 
>>>> Since members of this LNC seem determined to prevent the investigation 
>>>> from 
>>>> going forward without action from the entire Libertarian National 
>>>> Committee, I am asking the Secretary to distribute the following email 
>>>> ballot: 
>>>> 
>>>> The Libertarian National Committee directs the Convention Oversight 
>>>> Committee to provide the recording of the June 15, 2020 Convention 
>>>> Oversight Committee meeting to the Executive Director for his review. 
>>>> 
>>>> Yours in liberty, 
>>>> Nick 
>>>> 
>>>