[Lnc-business] The Cold Equations - We are not cancelling this convention

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

The delegates voted.  End of story.  It is over.  They knew all that and we
don't get to act like daddy state.

Here is the tough love.  No one who cannot honor the will of the delegates
should accept an LNC position.  The will of the delegates at convention
transcends regions. They are the ultimate authority, and usurping that is
the ultimate betrayal of our elected positions.

*  In Liberty,*
* Personal Note:  I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome
(part of the autism spectrum).  This can affect inter-personal
communication skills in both personal and electronic arenas.  If anyone
found anything offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux
pas) in an actual email, please contact me privately and let me know.  *


On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 11:44 AM David T. Valente <david.valente at lp.org>
wrote:

> I have traveled down to Georgia from WV in anticipation of this trip. I
> will put around 32 hours in my car going to and from Orlando via WV. I have
> put a lot of money into doing this trip in the middle of trying to finance
> building a new house. If we cancel, I am out the hotel money for Orlando. I
> was already out airfare for Austin, and no one sought to make Austin
> delegates whole. I hate to do this but I need to dish out a little tough
> love. We planned a big in person gathering in the middle if a global
> pandemic, regardless of what a person thinks of the seriousness of Covid,
> the trend lines and increasing regulations are against us. We moved our in
> person Convention after the Democrats, to a date prior to the original
> Democratic gathering. Everyone should have treated this endeavor with a
> caveat emptor mindset.
>
> I would say if you want to go to Orlando, go, have a good time to the
> extent you can. Heck, let's treat Orlando, like Syracuse, as a remote
> gathering site if we push forward with convention online next weekend. Just
> have the registration, the credentialling and all that are online rather
> than in person, if the LNC votes to cancel. If the board votes to move
> forward, I will be down there. I love Conventions I want to see people but
> this whole thing has become absurd.
>
> As to the poll, simplest language to avoid influencing the result. To that
> end, the question being "Should the LNC hold the second sitting of the
> convention in person or online?"
>
> In person
> Online
>
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> *From:* Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 1, 2020, 3:58 AM
> *To:* Libertarian National Committee list
> *Cc:* Caryn Ann Harlos
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] The Cold Equations - We are not cancelling
> this convention
>
> And unless it is at a very odd hour I am not available on the 5th either.
> I am in Los Angeles working with the new software to help make sure remote
> options are a success. * In Liberty,* * Personal Note: I have what is
> commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome (part of the autism spectrum). This
> can affect inter-personal communication skills in both personal and
> electronic arenas. If anyone found anything offensive or overly off-putting
> (or some other social faux pas) in an actual email, please contact me
> privately and let me know. * On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:45 AM Caryn Ann
> Harlos wrote: > PS my husband is no longer the CO state chair. it is of
> personal interest > because it is my state chair and I have to face her.
> And I will not look > her in the eye and say too bad so sad you are out
> that money unless I am > willing to make her whole. > > * In Liberty,* > *
> Personal Note: I have what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome > (part
> of the autism spectrum). This can affect inter-personal > communication
> skills in both personal and electronic arenas. If anyone > found anything
> offensive or overly off-putting (or some other social faux > pas) in an
> actual email, please contact me privately and let me know. * > > > On Wed,
> Jul 1, 2020 at 1:43 AM Caryn Ann Harlos > wrote: > >> Everything I have to
> say assumes that nothing else changes such as the >> chair choosing to vote
> on that email ballot early or the state of Florida >> shutting things down.
> >> >> Fact: We have a perfectly acceptable location. I do not find the >>
> stretches to try to find ways this is materially different particularly >>
> credible but as a justification to relitigate this issue that the delegates
> >> already decided. >> >> Fact: The soonest we can meet is July 4. I am not
> available. Of course >> a meeting can take place without me but that would
> then prove contradictory >> to the repeated concerns of disenfranchisement
> of anyone. Not that this >> difference of one day really matters. >> >> So
> we meet on July 5. You really think we are going to cancel on July 5? >>
> That is grossly abusive to delegates. Some of them ARE ALREADY DRIVING >>
> DOWN. It is too late. This is a fact and not all the wishes of a magic >>
> lamp changes that. >> >> Further, I am hearing from more people and I am
> not even certain now that >> finding out that the original delegates
> changed their mind is enough (if >> they have). Why? People have spent
> thousands in detrimental reliance on >> our decision. Including the
> Colorado state chair which is of personal >> interest to me. Anyone voting
> to cancel, I do hope you will volunteer your >> own money to make these
> people whole. >> >> It is over IMHO unless someone can show me where my
> reasoning is wrong. >> The sooner we stop sabatoging the will of the
> delegates (which we >> criticized the chair for) the sooner we work to make
> this a success under >> difficult circumstances. >> >> We don't get to
> override the delegates. We don't get to cause people to >> lose money
> because we have cold feet,. >> >> * In Liberty,* >> * Personal Note: I have
> what is commonly known as Asperger's Syndrome >> (part of the autism
> spectrum). This can affect inter-personal >> communication skills in both
> personal and electronic arenas. If anyone >> found anything offensive or
> overly off-putting (or some other social faux >> pas) in an actual email,
> please contact me privately and let me know. * >> >
>
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