[Lnc-business] Tuesday’s excomm

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

No one has.

*  In Liberty,*



On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 4:15 AM Richard Longstreth <
richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:

> Do not put words into my mouth. I am specifically asking that if someone
> has made up their mind on this without any sort of investigation, they
> should be forthright with that. Being open to debate is obviously not the
> same thing.
>
> Richard Longstreth
> At Large Representative
> Libertarian National Committee
> richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
>
> Sent from my Mobile Device
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 04:27 Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Having an opinion already is not a reason for recusal.  That is utter
>> nonsense.  Particularly when all opinions are open for revision in debate
>> or with further information.  I bet JBH has an opinion.  I am shocked to
>> hear you think he should recuse himself.  I don't.
>>
>> *  In Liberty,*
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 3:25 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No one is asking for a recusal.  This is standard RONR and required by
>>> RONR and a practice JBH has regularly followed for motions.  I am sure the
>>> Party Parliamentarian would be glad to advise the EC on this.
>>>
>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 2:40 AM Richard Longstreth <
>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I leave that to the chair prerogative and do not join that call. I have
>>>> not seen a conflict of interest arise in his comments and a chair is
>>>> allowed to indulge the body with his thoughts provided they do not cross a
>>>> line into debate. We can obtain his viewpoint and explanation and his
>>>> integrity as chair does not need be compromised.
>>>>
>>>> Only someone who has already drawn conclusions or is receiving some
>>>> sort of benefit from the situation (financial or otherwise) should recuse
>>>> themselves from participation lest we appear to be a kangaroo court of
>>>> sorts. If that is any member of the ExComm I would expect them to
>>>> professionally declare so prior to beginning our meeting tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Richard Longstreth
>>>> At Large Representative
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> richard.longstreth at lp.org
>>>> 931.538.9300
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Mobile Device
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021, 02:55 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
>>>> lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I put it on the LNC list for transparency purposes.  Another case of no
>>>>> matter what I do certain people will want to villify it so I do what I
>>>>> think is right.  I do find it delicious how there is never any call for
>>>>> slow deliberation when it comes to attacking me.
>>>>>
>>>>> *  In Liberty,*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 12:37 AM Francis Wendt <francis.wendt at lp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > This seems to be on the business list, thus a matter put before the
>>>>> LNC.
>>>>> > You should have put it on the excom list if that is who it was
>>>>> intended for.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Francis Wendt
>>>>> > LNC Region 1 Representative
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ------------------------------
>>>>> > *From:* Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>>> > *Sent:* Monday, June 14, 2021 12:34:03 AM
>>>>> > *To:* Francis Wendt <francis.wendt at lp.org>
>>>>> > *Cc:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>>>>> > *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Tuesday’s excomm
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Further this is a request to the voting members of the ex comm.  I
>>>>> could
>>>>> > have just put this on the EC list but did not.  But you quite
>>>>> literally
>>>>> > have no vote here.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 12:32 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>> > carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This is line with RONR and my right.  Are we denying member rights
>>>>> now?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This is the proper course. I suggest you talk to a parliamentarian.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 12:17 AM Francis Wendt <francis.wendt at lp.org
>>>>> >
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This is highly improper and not in line with the policy manual. Are
>>>>> we
>>>>> > literally making up up rules as we go?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This is starting to look very very bad. LPNH falling to pieces is no
>>>>> > reason for us to do the same. In my brief absence it seems as if we
>>>>> just
>>>>> > threw the policy manual out the window.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Francis Wendt
>>>>> > LNC Region 1 Representative
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ------------------------------
>>>>> > *From:* Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org> on behalf of
>>>>> Caryn
>>>>> > Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>>>>> > *Sent:* Monday, June 14, 2021 12:10:20 AM
>>>>> > *To:* Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
>>>>> > *Cc:* Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>>>>> > *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Tuesday’s excomm
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I am asking the chair to not preside as his conduct is a main issue
>>>>> of
>>>>> > contention and for a chair pro tem for that meeting be appointed
>>>>> (which per
>>>>> > RONR will need approval from the body).  The chair pro tem need not
>>>>> be an
>>>>> > LNC member.  I recommend Dr Lark.--
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *  In Liberty,*
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *  In Liberty,*
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *  In Liberty,*
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>