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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I believe we had a request for a roll call vote on a unanimous vote at the last LNC meeting. At face value, I think a motion for roll call vote on a unanimous motion could easily be deemed as dilatory by the Chair.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>From the dummies.com site regarding the same, I offer:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;background:white'><b><span lang=EN style='color:#333333'>Dilatory motions</span></b><span lang=EN style='color:#333333'> include motions that are<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:21.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN style='color:#333333'>Misused with the purpose of obstructing business (such as a series of points of order and appeals, motions to table, or motions to adjourn offered every time a little discussion has passed by a few members who don't like the way things are going)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:21.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN style='color:#333333'>Absurd in substance<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:21.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN style='color:#333333'>Frivolous, especially amendments<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:21.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN style='color:#333333'>Unwarranted (such as calling "division" when the result is clear)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Now it seems to me that I could easily declare that a call for a roll call vote on a unanimous vote is dilatory, except that the Bylaws state:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'>“The National Committee shall use roll call voting on all substantive motions. Additionally, the National committee must have a roll call vote upon request of any single Committee member present on any motion. On all roll call votes, the vote of each individual Committee member shall be recorded in the minutes.”<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The Bylaws allow for roll call votes for any reason on any vote, including on purely procedural things like a motion to extend time, or a motion to recess. I believe I am bound by the fact that the Bylaws do not grant me any authority to use reason in order to maintain a productive flow of the meeting. As such, I will deem any roll call vote to be in order. I have been asked if it would be acceptable to record only the individual(s) who voted against a motion, but I find that to do this would be in violation of the letter of the Bylaws, even if the past delegates never really intended this to apply to even such minor details as whether to order Chinese or pizza for a working lunch. I will leave this issue to future Bylaws Committee’s and Conventions.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>However, specificity of what is to be included in the minutes is extremely discretionary. The minutes serve as a record of the business of the LNC. They are not transcripts. We are faced with the absolute fact that it serves no purpose or value to record how members voted on what’s for lunch, yet we are compelled to do so by our Bylaws, if a single member requests it. If requested, I will order that the minutes record the vote. Every time this is invoked, it will take several minutes to conduct and record. I will reserve the privilege as Chair to record that I find the roll call vote to be dilatory, to record who requested it, and to include how much time was wasted on the dilatory motion, so our members can clearly identify who is just plain wasting the time of the LNC, so that when we are asked by those we serve why we get so little done, they will have evidence of who the negative reaction’s should be targeted at.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>On any other motion, I reserve to right to declare motions to be dilatory, if I feel the intent is obstruction.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Under Robert’s I also have the authority to rule motions to be “improper”. From the same website, improper motions:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:21.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:130%;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:130%;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN style='color:#333333'>Are inconsistent with the organization's charter, bylaws, or procedural laws<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:21.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:130%;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:130%;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN style='color:#333333'>Conflict with an adopted motion that hasn't been rescinded<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:21.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:130%;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:130%;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN style='color:#333333'>Present essentially the same question that has been defeated earlier in the same meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:21.0pt;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:130%;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:130%;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN style='color:#333333'>Present a question that the membership still has within its reach (as it has when something has been postponed or referred to a committee, or is the object of a motion to reconsider)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:6.0pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:21.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-indent:-.25in;line-height:130%;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2;background:white'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN style='font-size:10.0pt;line-height:130%;font-family:Symbol;color:#333333'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span lang=EN style='color:#333333'>Are outside the scope of the purpose of the organization (unless the motion is agreed to be considered by a two-thirds vote)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In short, please don’t waste our time just because you have the “right” to do so. It will absolutely incline everyone else to ignore everything you say. Some people on the LNC are already there, anyway.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Geoffrey Neale<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Chair<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Libertarian Party<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>