<font><font face="verdana,sans-serif">LNC,</font></font><div><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif">I think that 4 people for a mail ballot is acceptable. If someone is unable to recruit 3 additional people to support (co-sponsor) a motion, chances are it will not pass anyway. This also ensures that motions we are actually voting on merit having a vote.</font></font></div>
<div><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></div><div><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Getting a motion passed is tough when you have a board of 18 people. This forces each individual to speak/work with other members of the board, talk through it and develop a motion that has a high likelihood of passing. </font></font></div>
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</div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Geoffrey Neale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:liber8or@austin.rr.com" target="_blank">liber8or@austin.rr.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">My apologies for not catching that prior question.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">For parliamentary purposes, there are eighteen members of the LNC. This is because alternates can only be seated in lieu of their regional representative, and have no vote otherwise. The maximum votes that can be cast on any motion is 18. The alternates do not count towards the thresholds.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Therefore, 1/5<sup>th</sup> of 18 is 3.6, meaning that four sponsors are required for any motion.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Geoffrey Neale<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Chair<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Starchild<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, November 24, 2012 7:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Lnc-business] Parliamentary question - How many cosponsors are needed for an email motion?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span>On August 4, I made reference to the rule (from the Bylaws, Article 8, Section 10) about 1/5th of the LNC needing to co-sponsor a motion proposed by email in order for it to be voted on, and noted that my reading was that this means <b>six</b> of us. To my knowledge, no one contradicted or corrected that statement:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Starchild <sfdreamer@earthl<a href="http://ink.net" target="_blank">ink.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I've proposed a number of motions I believe were practical and productive, but generally at our in-person meetings since the threshold to get anything voted on in a mail vote is much higher (at the meetings it only takes one person seconding; here it takes at least 1/5th of the committee, which I read to be six of us). I think reducing that threshold in the bylaws would be a good idea, and could enable us to get more actual stuff accomplished between meetings.<u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span>Was what I wrote incorrect but no one caught it, and is it in fact the case that an email motion not coming from the chair actually needs only <b>four</b> co-sponsors? I note that this is the number with which the secretary published the recent motion concerning buying a building. As I wrote above, I believe a lower threshold is preferable, but the most important thing is for everyone to understand what the number is, and for the rules to be consistently applied. If LNC alternates are not counted when determining the number of co-sponsors an email motion needs, then I presume they would not be counted toward other thresholds either, such as quorum, super-majorities, etc. (unless of course they are sitting in for their regional reps)? <u></u><u></u></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span>What are people's understandings on this?<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">Love & Liberty,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> ((( starchild )))<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">
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