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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Gentlemen:<br>
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      While this repartee certainly demonstrates a heartening dedication
      to the organization from both of you, and includes interesting
      points on both sides, I believe it would be more appropriate to
      continue it (if at all) on the Discuss list rather than the
      Business list.  Thanks.<br>
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        <b>David E. Blau, Esq.</b>
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        Chairman, Libertarian Association of Massachusetts.
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        Region 5N Alternate, Libertarian National Committee.
        <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:David.Blau@lp.org">David.Blau@lp.org</a>
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      On 1/30/2013 8:23 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:liber8or@austin.rr.com">liber8or@austin.rr.com</a> wrote:<br>
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      <pre wrap="">Isn't it obvious? I think our job as board members is to act according to the Bylaws in the best interest of the LP.  We need a permanent Secretary ASAP.  

If this was a vote in Convention, it would be conducted very much as the motion was submitted.  

I feel absolutely no duty to debate you. 

This motion is appropriate, and I find no value in your arguments.

Besides, its too late.

Geoffrey Neale

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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From: Starchild <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net"><sfdreamer@earthlink.net></a>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:05:37 
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:liber8or@austin.rr.com"><liber8or@austin.rr.com></a>
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org"><lnc-business@hq.lp.org></a>
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] E-MAIL BALLOT: Selection of LNC Secretary -  Problematic voting method

Geoff,

        I'm afraid that's not much help! Will you please say what you mean, rather than speaking in riddles? Sorry if I'm being dense.

Love & Liberty,
                                 ((( starchild )))
At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee


On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:52 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:liber8or@austin.rr.com">liber8or@austin.rr.com</a> wrote:

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        <pre wrap="">Starchild - never try to teach a pig to sing - it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

Geoffrey Neale
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Starchild <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net"><sfdreamer@earthlink.net></a>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:49:18 
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:liber8or@austin.rr.com"><liber8or@austin.rr.com></a>
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org"><lnc-business@hq.lp.org></a>
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] E-MAIL BALLOT: Selection of LNC Secretary -  Problematic voting method

Geoff,

        I am an LNC member, but I don't see how that relates to the topic at hand. Please explain.

Love & Liberty,
                               ((( starchild )))
At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee


On Jan 30, 2013, at 4:37 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:liber8or@austin.rr.com">liber8or@austin.rr.com</a> wrote:

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          <pre wrap="">Starchild - here is my analysis - you are a member of the board of the LP.

Geoffrey Neale
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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From: Starchild <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net"><sfdreamer@earthlink.net></a>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:59:36 
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:liber8or@austin.rr.com"><liber8or@austin.rr.com></a>
Cc: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org"><lnc-business@hq.lp.org></a>
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] E-MAIL BALLOT: Selection of LNC Secretary - Problematic voting method

Geoff,

        Do you disagree with my analysis of how the current voting method could discourage people from voting for candidates they expect to draw less support in order to not risk "wasting their votes"? If so, can you explain your disagreement?

Love & Liberty,
                               ((( starchild )))
At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee


On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:46 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:liber8or@austin.rr.com">liber8or@austin.rr.com</a> wrote:

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            <pre wrap="">I see no fault with the process of the vote.

Geoffrey Neale
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From: Starchild
To: Geoffrey Neale
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] E-MAIL BALLOT: Selection of LNC Secretary - Problematic voting method
Sent: Jan 30, 2013 5:25 PM

        Well, if everyone votes quickly, we don't have to keep the voting open for the full period. Meanwhile perhaps the secretary or the chair could also withdraw the current ballot? I'm not certain about the mechanics of that, but it seems like there should be a way to withdraw and restart a ballot that is faulty in some manner.

Love & Liberty,
                              ((( starchild )))
At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee


On Jan 30, 2013, at 3:13 PM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:liber8or@austin.rr.com">liber8or@austin.rr.com</a> wrote:

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              <pre wrap="">Okay - let's think this through.

Let's suppose you get the required number of sponsors for your motion, and in a few days we start a vote to "start over" with different rules, which will take an additional ten days.

In the meantime, the current election round one will be over, and perhaps a candidate will have reached the threshhold for winning according to our Bylaws.

Just exactly how do we reopen an election?

Geoffrey Neale
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: Starchild <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net"><sfdreamer@earthlink.net></a>
Sender: "Lnc-business" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org"><lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org></a>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 14:13:05 
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org"><lnc-business@hq.lp.org></a>
Reply-To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] E-MAIL BALLOT: Selection of LNC Secretary -
        Problematic voting method

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