<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>You think it would take <b>a week</b> to tabulate 170 votes (17 people each voting for up to 10 candidates)? It seems to me this could be done in less than 30 minutes. What am I missing here?</div><div><br></div><div>Love & Liberty,</div><div> ((( starchild )))</div><div>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Mar 10, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Geoffrey Neale wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>I suggest you read what I wrote, because what you are asking for would take<br>about a week if we wait for one vote to be tabulated before moving on to<br>voting on the next.<br><br>I can, however, ask that any person nominated for more than one committee be<br>identified on the ballots, so that the LNC can keep that fact in mind when<br>voting FOR ALL THREE COPMMITTEES at the same time.<br><br>Geoffrey Neale<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of<br>Starchild<br>Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 5:47 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] 2014 Convention Committee Voting Procedure<br><br>Geoff,<br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The reporting aspect of the elections does not appear to be fleshed<br>out in the procedure you've outlined below. I would suggest clarifying that<br>results for the vote on each committee will be announced by the secretary,<br>and the ballots counted in that election displayed for public viewing for an<br>ample length of time, prior to moving on to voting to populate the next<br>committee. In addition to being in keeping with holding open and transparent<br>elections, this should will help us avoid electing the same people to<br>multiple committees, which is undesirable given the limited number of slots<br>relative to the number of people interested in serving. Of course the<br>tallying of ballots should also be done by the secretary in full view of<br>anyone wishing to observe the process.<br><br>Love & Liberty,<br> ((( starchild ))) At-Large Representative,<br>Libertarian National Committee<br><br><br>On Mar 10, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Geoffrey Neale wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">I have "fleshed out" what I intend to do. Enjoy. Feedback is welcome.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Geoffrey Neale<br></blockquote><br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">I intend to use the following procedure:<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. There will be separate printed ballots for each committee<br></blockquote></blockquote>election.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. Staff and the Secretary shall determine that all nominees are<br></blockquote></blockquote>eligible (sustaining members), and also designate their affiliate of record,<br>which will be printed on the ballots.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. Each voting LNC Member will submit their ballot directly to the<br></blockquote></blockquote>Secretary.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. Each voting LNC member will print their name legibly on their<br></blockquote></blockquote>submitted ballots.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. All submitted ballots will first be verified for complying with<br></blockquote></blockquote>the established procedures (noted below). Rejected ballots will be returned<br>to the LNC member for correction. Failure to correct the ballot to comply<br>with the procedure will result in the ballot being spoiled, and not counted.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. Regional Alternates may submit ballots, but their ballots will not<br></blockquote></blockquote>be recorded, tabulated or reported unless their Regional Representative<br>fails to submit a proper ballot.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. Close of voting on the committees will be determined by a vote of<br></blockquote></blockquote>the LNC. The date and time shall be set as part of the agenda.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. Ballots submitted past the vote by the LNC to close voting will<br></blockquote></blockquote>not be recognized.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. In each election, the nominee that receives the highest number of<br></blockquote></blockquote>votes will be appointed as the interim chair of that committee. In case of a<br>tie, the person with the highest alphabetical last name shall be appointed.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. In cases of ties for the last position on any committee, a<br></blockquote></blockquote>subsequent "runoff" election will be held including only those nominees that<br>tied.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Platform Committee (20 Members)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bylaws specify that there will be one member from each of the top ten<br></blockquote></blockquote>affiliates, chosen by the affiliate. The top ten affiliates from the 2012<br>convention based upon delegate allocation were (in descending order):<br>California, Texas, Florida, Ohio, New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia,<br>Illinois, Michigan and Georgia.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Ten members are chosen by the LNC, but no more than five can be from the<br></blockquote></blockquote>top ten affiliates.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. The ballot presented to the LNC shall be split into two sections:<br></blockquote></blockquote>nominees from the Top 10 and all others. Each section will be ordered by<br>last name then first name.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. Each LNC member may vote for up to ten nominees, but will not vote<br></blockquote></blockquote>for more than five (5) from the Top 10 Affiliate section.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. The ten elected members will be determined by total vote count,<br></blockquote></blockquote>subject to the Bylaw restriction on Top Ten Affiliate membership.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Credentials Committee (10 Members)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bylaws specify that there will be one member from each of the top five<br></blockquote></blockquote>affiliates, chosen by the affiliate. The top five affiliates from the 2012<br>convention based upon delegate allocation were (in descending order):<br>California, Texas, Florida, Ohio and New York.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Five members are chosen by the LNC.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. The ballot presented to the LNC will comprise a single section,<br></blockquote></blockquote>which will be ordered by last name then first name.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. Each LNC member may vote for up to five nominees.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. The five elected members will be determined by total vote count.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bylaws Committee (10 Members)<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Bylaws specify that the LNC selects all Bylaws Committee members, but no<br></blockquote></blockquote>more than five can be LNC members.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. The ballot presented to the LNC shall be split into two sections:<br></blockquote></blockquote>LNC members and all others. Each section will be ordered by last name then<br>first name.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. Each LNC member may vote for up to ten nominees, but will not vote<br></blockquote></blockquote>for more than five (5) from the LNC Member section.<br><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>. 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