<div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Mr. Wrights,</div><div><br></div><div>I sent my email to everyone whom Mr. Johnson sent his original email.</div><div><br></div><div>Dianna</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:13 AM, R. Lee Wrights <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rleewrights@gmail.com" target="_blank">rleewrights@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>Ms. Visek,</div><div><br></div><div>Why was Mr. Starr and Mr. Dixon included in the distribution of this piece of wasted time? Neither of them serve on the LNC and neither of them have standing to be part of a discussion about approved minutes.<br>
<br>Honestly, I am seeing an obsession here with having to be "right" all the time, I find disturbing. With all the vitally important things we have to consider, it seems the "only" time you come on this list is to deliver Mr. Starr's list of corrections.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Again, I suggest you start preparing your run for LNC Secretary like, yesterday. Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>As I understand it, the minutes in question stand approved. I would disregard this post and move on to more pressing matters. Our membership deserves better than this waste of valuable time.<br>
<br><br>Lee Wrights</div><div>Vice Chair</div>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:04 PM, Dianna Visek <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dianna.visek@gmail.com" target="_blank">dianna.visek@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Gary, </div><div><br></div><div>You indicated that you made two changes on p. 11 rather than just the one called for in the motion. That other instance was not an oversight. It was intentionally left out of my motion.<br>
<br>Mr. Hinkle's motion to "suspend the rules to take up the agenda item Budget Review and Approval" was a different circumstance than the others for which I made the motion to record Neale's abstention. On that motion, after you made it around the rest of the room with the roll call, Geoff interrupted and declared that the motion failed before you had an opportunity to call Geoff's name for the roll call. So in the other instances, Geoff's name was called and he gave a verbal response to the roll call indicating his abstention. But in this case, his name was not called, so he did not respond to the roll call. That is why that situation was intentionally left out of the motion, and on p. 11, I only requested a change on the motion regarding shipping expenses.<br>
<br>However, if Geoff Neale does not object to his early termination of the roll call being recorded as an abstention on his part for that motion, I don't object either and we can move on. Geoff was there. He had the floor as the chair and could have voted if he wanted to, but the motion had clearly failed and for efficiency he just didn't bother to wait for his name to be called. I don't think it's improper to list it as an abstention in that case, but it's not required either. The circumstances were enough different that I chose not to include it in my motion, but I don't object to handling it that way.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Dianna</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Gary Johnson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sedition@aol.com" target="_blank">sedition@aol.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">CORRECT LINK BELOW; I SENT THE WRONG LINK IN THE PREVIOUS EMAIL.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">My apologies. The previous email I sent you had the old link to an earlier draft of the minutes. The correct link is below.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Here is a link to what I believe can be considered the approved minutes of the December 14 and 15, 2013, LNC meeting in Dallas.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">On January 11, a member of the LNC, Dianna Visek, challenged the updated draft of the minutes. Therefore the minutes I prepared as secretary pro tem for the session were not auto approved.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Also on January 11, Ms. Visek, made the following motion for an email ballot:</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I move to adopt the December 14-15, 2013 LNC meeting minutes, subject to the Secretary adding Geoff Neale's abstentions which are not currently listed in the roll call votes on the following motions:</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">p. 9 Michael Cloud motion</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">p. 10 first motion regarding Carla Howell</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">p. 11 second motion regarding Carla Howell</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">p. 12 Purpose of Committees motion</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">p. 14 appeal chair's ruling on the multiple choice motion</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Later on January 11, the chair, Geoffrey Neale, sponsored the motion, meaning seconds were not needed.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">On January 14, the secretary, David Blau, distributed "Email Ballot 2014-01" on the motion to amend and approve the minutes and declared that voting would end on January 24 at 11:59 p.m. Eastern Time.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion passed, with 9 in favor and 1 against. Goldstein, Hagan, Kirkland, Lark, Neale, Pojunis, Starchild, Visek, and Wiener voted in favor. Johnson voted against.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Lieberman also voted in favor; but his vote as one of the two alternates for Region 4 did not count because both of the representatives for Region 4 voted.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Olsen attempted to vote in favor of the motion; but he cast his vote on January 25, after the polling had ended.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Since the Libertarian National Committee had 18 members, at least 10 votes were needed for a quorum. And, since there were 10 votes, enough votes were cast.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion said "subject to the Secretary adding Geoff Neale's abstentions." Does this mean the secretary, Mr. Blau, is supposed to this? </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't know if anyone assumed that I was going to do this as the secretary pro tem for the session.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Anyway, I have amended and prepared the approved minutes.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have labeled this version "Approved by Email Ballot. Updated January 24, 2014." January 24 was the last day for voting on the e-mail ballot.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Although the motion for the email ballot called for nine changes, I have made ten changes.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">One of the changes is "p. 11 shipping motion." However, there are two roll call votes on page 11 in the "Shipping Motion" section. So, I changed both.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion by Mr. Cloud to adopt the resolution "Motion to Pay Mr. Cloud a Fair Amount for his Fundraising Services" failed, with 4 in favor and 11 against. Goldstein, Lieberman, Starchild, and Visek voted in favor. Cloud, Hagan, Hinkle, Kirkland, Johnson, Lark, Olsen, Redpath, Tomasso, Vohra, and Wiener voted against.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion by Mr. Cloud to adopt the resolution "Motion to Pay Mr. Cloud a Fair Amount for his Fundraising Services" failed, with 4 in favor, 11 against, and 1 abstaining. Goldstein, Lieberman, Starchild, and Visek voted in favor. Cloud, Hagan, Hinkle, Kirkland, Johnson, Lark, Olsen, Redpath, Tomasso, Vohra, and Wiener voted against. Neale abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion passed, with 13 in favor and 2 against. Cloud, Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Lieberman, Olsen, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, and Wiener voted in favor. Hinkle and Vohra voted against.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion passed, with 13 in favor, 2 against, and 1 abstaining. Cloud, Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Lieberman, Olsen, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, and Wiener voted in favor. Hinkle and Vohra voted against. Neale abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The amended motion passed, with 14 in favor and 1 against. Cloud, Goldstein, Hagan, Hinkle, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Lieberman, Olsen, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, and Wiener voted in favor. Vohra voted against.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The amended motion passed, with 14 in favor, 1 against, and 1 abstaining. Cloud, Goldstein, Hagan, Hinkle, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Lieberman, Olsen, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, and Wiener voted in favor. Vohra voted against. Neale abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mr. Hinkle moved to suspend the rules to take up the agenda item Budget Review and Approval. The motion failed, with 5 in favor and 10 against. Cloud, Hinkle, Kirkland, Olsen, and Vohra voted in favor. Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Lark, Pojunis, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, and Wiener voted against.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mr. Hinkle moved to suspend the rules to take up the agenda item Budget Review and Approval. The motion failed, with 5 in favor, 10 against, and 1 abstaining. Cloud, Hinkle, Kirkland, Olsen, and Vohra voted in favor. Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Lark, Pojunis, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, and Wiener voted against. Neale abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion passed, with 11 in favor and 4 against. Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Pojunis, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, and Wiener voted in favor. Cloud, Hinkle, Olsen, and Vohra voted against.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion passed, with 11 in favor, 4 against, and 1 abstaining. Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Pojunis, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, and Wiener voted in favor. Cloud, Hinkle, Olsen, and Vohra voted against. Neale abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">46. TO RECORD THE CHAIR AS ABSTAINING WHEN THE CHAIR DID NOT VOTE --</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion passed, with 12 in favor, 1 against, and 2 abstaining. Cloud, Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Pojunis, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, and Wiener voted in favor. Hinkle voted against. Olsen and Vohra abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion passed, with 12 in favor, 1 against, and 3 abstaining. Cloud, Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Pojunis, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, and Wiener voted in favor. Hinkle voted against. Neale, Olsen, and Vohra abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">47. TO RECORD THE CHAIR AS ABSTAINING WHEN THE CHAIR DID NOT VOTE --</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion passed, with 10 in favor, 2 against, and 3 abstaining. Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Olsen, Pojunis, Redpath, Wiener, and Visek voted in favor. Cloud and Hinkle voted against. Starchild, Tomasso, and Vohra abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion passed, with 10 in favor, 2 against, and 4 abstaining. Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Olsen, Pojunis, Redpath, Wiener, and Visek voted in favor. Cloud and Hinkle voted against. Neale, Starchild, Tomasso, and Vohra abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">48. TO RECORD THE CHAIR AS ABSTAINING WHEN THE CHAIR DID NOT VOTE --</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Starchild moved that the LP.org web page listing committee members include links to committee reports posted online and contact information. The motion failed, with 5 in favor, 9 against, and 1 abstaining. Hagan, Johnson, Lark, Starchild and Tomasso voted in favor. Goldstein, Hinkle, Kirkland, Olsen, Pojunis, Redpath, Visek, Vohra, and Wiener voted against. Cloud abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Starchild moved that the LP.org web page listing committee members include links to committee reports posted online and contact information. The motion failed, with 5 in favor, 9 against, and 2 abstaining. Hagan, Johnson, Lark, Starchild, and Tomasso voted in favor. Goldstein, Hinkle, Kirkland, Olsen, Pojunis, Redpath, Visek, Vohra, and Wiener voted against. Neale and Cloud abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">49. TO RECORD THE CHAIR AS ABSTAINING WHEN THE CHAIR DID NOT VOTE --</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mr. Neale ruled that the motion was out of order because it was a multiple choice. Mr. Cloud appealed the ruling of the chair. The ruling of the chair was upheld, with 10 in favor of upholding the chair, 4 against, and 1 abstaining. Hagan, Hinkle, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Olsen, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, and Wiener voted in favor. Cloud, Goldstein, Pojunis, and Visek voted against. Vohra abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Mr. Neale ruled that the motion was out of order because it was a multiple choice. Mr. Cloud appealed the ruling of the chair. The ruling of the chair was upheld, with 10 in favor of upholding the chair, 4 against, and 2 abstaining. Hagan, Hinkle, Johnson, Kirkland, Lark, Olsen, Redpath, Starchild, Tomasso, and Wiener voted in favor. Cloud, Goldstein, Pojunis, and Visek voted against. Neale and Vohra abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">50. TO RECORD THE CHAIR AS ABSTAINING WHEN THE CHAIR DID NOT VOTE --</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The amended proviso passed, with 11 in favor, 1 against, and 2 abstaining. Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Lark, Lieberman, Olsen, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, Vohra, and Wiener voted in favor. Hinkle voted against. Kirkland and Redpath abstained.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The amended proviso passed, with 11 in favor, 1 against, and 3 abstaining. Goldstein, Hagan, Johnson, Lark, Lieberman, Olsen, Starchild, Tomasso, Visek, Vohra, and Wiener voted in favor. Hinkle voted against. Kirkland, Neale, and Redpath abstained.</font></div>
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