<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>With all due respect, I do not see how one can say, "Who the Chair of the Libertarian Party of Oregon is has been adjudicated by the Oregon courts."<br><br></div><div>I have attached the judge's ruling to this message. Can the LNC Chair please point me to what phrase in this ruling tells us who the judge said is the Chair of the LP of Oregon?<br>
</div><div><br></div>What I read is that the judge dismissed the case specifically because he REFUSED to adjudicate the matter. Note passages such as:<br><br></div><div style="margin-left:40px">"As to itself, the LPO has established a Judicial Committee to address the exact kind of questions Plaintiffs would have this court decide. The Constitution of the LPO dictates that the decisions of the Judicial Committee, not the decisions of a court, will be final, subject only to appropriate action of the full membership of the party."<br>
</div><br></div>...and...<br><br></div><div style="margin-left:40px">"This matter is either nonjusticiable, or if the court has the power to address the dispute, it also has discretion to stay its hand in light of the existence of other remedies that may lead to resolution of these sensitive matters without the need for the court to intrude upon the inner workings of a political party."<br>
</div><br></div><div>The judge did not say the SOS could decide, as the Judicial Committee prescribed. The judge refused to decide it himself. The judge said the party should decide it internally.<br></div><div><br></div>
-Alicia<br><br><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Nicholas Sarwark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chair@lp.org" target="_blank">chair@lp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Our affiliate is the Libertarian Party of Oregon. Who the Chair of<br>
the Libertarian Party of Oregon is has been adjudicated by the Oregon<br>
courts. As a party, we do not affiliate with individuals, we<br>
affiliate with other organizations.<br>
<br>
-Nick<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 12:56 AM, Alicia Mattson <<a href="mailto:agmattson@gmail.com">agmattson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> The LNC can only disaffiliate a group that is an affiliate. To say we are<br>
> allowed to disaffiliate the Wagner group is like saying a guy has to divorce<br>
> a woman he never married in the first place just because she claims to be<br>
> his wife.<br>
><br>
> -Alicia<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <<a href="mailto:chair@lp.org">chair@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> A couple of points of information:<br>
>><br>
>> Decisions of the convention delegates can not be appealed to our<br>
>> Judicial Committee. Nobody has the authority to act contrary to the<br>
>> convention, nor is a resolution an act.<br>
>><br>
>> The situation on the ground in Oregon is actually rather<br>
>> uncomplicated. Wagner is the Chair of the Libertarian Party of<br>
>> Oregon. As an Oregon political party, it is regulated by Oregon state<br>
>> law. Reeves brought an unsuccessful lawsuit to ask the Oregon courts<br>
>> to rule that he is the Chair. Reeves is appealing that loss. In the<br>
>> interim, the Libertarian Party of Oregon has ballot access and will<br>
>> nominate +/- 50 candidates this election cycle.<br>
>><br>
>> Lastly, there's nothing in the bylaws that allows the LNC to resolve a<br>
>> dispute about who is Chair in Oregon or what the proper bylaws are.<br>
>> The bylaws are explicit about the LNC not being allowed to abridge the<br>
>> autonomy of a state affiliate. The LNC is allowed to disaffiliate<br>
>> from a state affiliate for cause. That is the only action available<br>
>> to the LNC.<br>
>><br>
>> -Nick<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 3:25 AM, Ron Windeler <<a href="mailto:rowindeler@aol.com">rowindeler@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Some, perhaps a majority of the LNC do not feel that an<br>
>> > apology, or even an expression of regret is appropriate in regards to<br>
>> > either<br>
>> > group claiming to be the LPO. Those that do are free to apologize,<br>
>> > express<br>
>> > their regrets, or get down on their knees and beg forgiveness if they<br>
>> > want<br>
>> > to.<br>
>> > Many of us believe that the members of the convention<br>
>> > are<br>
>> > the most important arbitrators of our bylaws and the LNC should take no<br>
>> > action that conflicts with their decisions. If someone thinks that the<br>
>> > convention acted improperly, their appropriate remedy would be an appeal<br>
>> > or<br>
>> > other complaint to our JC. The LNC doesn’t have the authority to act<br>
>> > contrary to the convention.<br>
>> > Passing either of the Oregon motions will not resolve<br>
>> > the<br>
>> > situation, only complicate it. There are at least two paths forward to<br>
>> > a<br>
>> > unified LPO. One is my proposal that the competing chairmen both resign<br>
>> > voluntarily and the remaining officers of both groups hold a special<br>
>> > convention to elect a new, undisputed LPO group of officers. The other<br>
>> > would<br>
>> > be for the LNC to accept the decision of the Oregon JC that the Reeves<br>
>> > group<br>
>> > is the legitimate LPO. I favor the second solution, as it gives the<br>
>> > most<br>
>> > respect to the state party.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Ron Windeler<br>
>> > <a href="mailto:rowindeler@aol.com">rowindeler@aol.com</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > -----Original Message-----<br>
>> > From: Norm Olsen <region1rep@doneDad.com><br>
>> > To: lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>><br>
>> > Sent: Sun, Jul 13, 2014 9:18 pm<br>
>> > Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2014-08: Oregon Resolution<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Aye!<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Norm<br>
>> > --<br>
>> > Norman T Olsen<br>
>> > Regional Representative, Region I<br>
>> > Libertarian National Committee<br>
>> > 7931 S Broadway, PMB 102<br>
>> > Littleton, Colorado 80122-2710<br>
>> > <a href="tel:303-263-4995" value="+13032634995">303-263-4995</a><br>
>> > <a href="mailto:Norman.Olsen@lp.org">Norman.Olsen@lp.org</a><br>
>> ><br>
>> > "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you,<br>
>> > then<br>
>> > you win." -- Gandhi<br>
>> ><br>
>> > From: Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
>> > Alicia Mattson<br>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 2:01 AM<br>
>> > To: <a href="mailto:lnc-business@lp.org">lnc-business@lp.org</a><br>
>> > Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2014-08: Oregon Resolution<br>
>> ><br>
>> > We have an electronic mail ballot.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 19, 2014 at 11:59:59pm<br>
>> > Pacific time.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Sponsor: Chair Nick Sarwark<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Motion:<br>
>> > Whereas, the Bylaws of the Libertarian Party state that “delegates to a<br>
>> > Regular Convention shall be selected by a method adopted by each<br>
>> > affiliate<br>
>> > party” (Article 11, 3 (b)), and<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Whereas, the Bylaws of the Libertarian Party state that “each<br>
>> > state-level<br>
>> > affiliate party shall, in accordance with its own Bylaws and these<br>
>> > Bylaws,<br>
>> > determine who shall be its delegates to all Regular Conventions.”<br>
>> > (Article<br>
>> > 6, 3), and<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Whereas, the Bylaws of the Libertarian Party state that “the autonomy of<br>
>> > the<br>
>> > affiliate and sub-affiliate parties shall not be abridged by the<br>
>> > National<br>
>> > Committee or any other committee of the Party…” (Article 6, 5), and<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Whereas the Chair of the National Convention incorrectly ruled that it<br>
>> > was<br>
>> > in order for the convention to vote to seat three delegates in the<br>
>> > Oregon<br>
>> > delegation over the objection of the affiliate party chair, and<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Whereas the motion made did not challenge the report of the Credentials<br>
>> > Committee as to who was the affiliate party chair, and<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Whereas the convention delegates subsequently voted to seat those<br>
>> > delegates<br>
>> > over the objection of the delegate chair,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Be it resolved that the Libertarian National Committee apologizes to the<br>
>> > Libertarian Party of Oregon for the erroneous ruling of the National<br>
>> > Convention Chair.<br>
>> > Alicia Mattson<br>
>> > LNC Secretary<br>
>> ><br>
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