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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: transparent;">And yet more: (notice how Mr. Wagner is endearing himself with, and winning support from the statechairs list)</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: transparent;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Wes Wagner <wes.wagner@gmail.com><br>
To: Alex Snitker <vicechair@lpf.org><br>
Cc: State Chairs Group <statechairs@hq.lp.org><br>
Sent: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 1:23 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Statechairs] The LNC Secretary is again trying to use the power of the LNC to dictate who a State Party Leadership is<br>
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<div dir="ltr">So you are saying the LNC didn't hire the republican party's lawyer, use his resources to back one faction, pay him with $5000 of unauthorized funds and then sign a conflict of interest release so Aaron Starr could sue us to put his proxy regime in control of our state?</div>
<div dir="ltr">What happened in your alternate version of reality? </div>
<div dir="ltr">Because the minutes and campaign finance records indicate the above narrative is factually accurate. </div>
<div dir="ltr"><font style="background-color: yellow;">The LNC has been neck deep in it.</font></div>
<div dir="ltr">Wes Wagner</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 8, 2014 1:18 PM, "Alex Snitker" <<a href="mailto:vicechair@lpf.org">vicechair@lpf.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;">
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;">At the end of the day these problems were not started by the LNC (which I am no fan of) but from the Libertarians in Oregon who cannot get their act together. <u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;">Act like adults and if you have a problem with the current leadership then vote them out at the next election. <u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;">Until then grow the party in positive ways and stop all the bickering. <u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;"><font style="background-color: yellow;">AND STOP USING THIS GROUP EMAIL TO AIR OUT YOUR PROBLEMS</font>.<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;">And I do not think that the LNC should recognize any of you until you start acting like you deserve it. <u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;"><u></u> <u></u></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;">Alex Snitker<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;">Vice Chairman<br>
Libertarian Party of Florida<u></u><u></u></span></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="background: white;"><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;">1334 Tampa Road, Suite 2<br>
Palm Harbor, Florida 34683</span><span style="color: black; font-size: 14pt;"><u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:; font-size: 10pt;"> Statechairs [mailto:<a href="mailto:statechairs-bounces@hq.lp.org">statechairs-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wes Wagner<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 08, 2014 10:16 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> State Chairs Group<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Statechairs] The LNC Secretary is again trying to use the power of the LNC to dictate who a State Party Leadership is<u></u><u></u></span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><a href="http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business_hq.lp.org/2014/001559.html" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business_hq.lp.org/2014/001559.html</a><br>
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Ron Windeler has completely consumed the old story complete with multiple "facts" that have long been refuted under objective examination.<br>
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More importantly he also state revealed quite clearly that the purpose of State affiliates is to be subordinate and obedient. He also refers to non-existent contracts as his basis for legitimacy. <br>
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Is this the LNC you want? One that attempts to place a tiny handful of people in control of your state who have republican ties just because they are better supplicants to centralized authority?<br>
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Or do we want a party of principles?<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Wes Wagner<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Chairperson, Libertarian Party of Oregon<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Wes Wagner <<a href="mailto:wes.wagner@gmail.com">wes.wagner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">The LNC Secretary is again trying to use the power of the LNC to dictate who a State Party Leadership is for the benefit of her own personal political alliances.<br>
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<a href="http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business_hq.lp.org/2014/001552.html" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business_hq.lp.org/2014/001552.html</a><u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Please consider the resolution we recently passed and why you should pass your own resolutions of Censure.<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font style="background-color: yellow;">This is not a Libertarian organization we are all a part of and has not been for quite some time.<u></u></font><u></u></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal">Sincerely,<br>
Wes Wagner<br>
Chairperson, Libertarian Party of Oregon<u></u><u></u></div>
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Wes Wagner<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div style="clear: both;">Ron Windeler<br>
rowindeler@aol.com<br>
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<div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Ron Windeler <rowindeler@aol.com><br>
To: lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org>; lnc-business <lnc-business@lp.org><br>
Sent: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 1:59 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Fwd: [Statechairs] Resolution of Censure and Referral of Action against the National Libertarian Party<br>
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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: transparent;">Our secretary hasn't done it yet, so I will forward Mr. Wagner's recent posts because they are so entertaining. (and he spelled my name right)</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: transparent;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Wes Wagner <<a href="mailto:wes.wagner@gmail.com">wes.wagner@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: State Chairs Group <<a href="mailto:statechairs@hq.lp.org">statechairs@hq.lp.org</a>><br>
Sent: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 7:16 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Statechairs] The LNC Secretary is again trying to use the power of the LNC to dictate who a State Party Leadership is<br>
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<div dir="ltr"><a href="http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business_hq.lp.org/2014/001559.html" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business_hq.lp.org/2014/001559.html</a><br>
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Ron Windeler has completely consumed the old story complete with multiple "facts" that have long been refuted under objective examination.<br>
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More importantly he also state revealed quite clearly that the purpose of State affiliates is to be subordinate and obedient. He also refers to non-existent contracts as his basis for legitimacy. <br>
<br>
Is this the LNC you want? One that attempts to place a tiny handful of people in control of your state who have republican ties just because they are better supplicants to centralized authority?<br>
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Or do we want a party of principles?<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_extra">Wes Wagner<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Chairperson, Libertarian Party of Oregon<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Wes Wagner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wes.wagner@gmail.com">wes.wagner@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>The LNC Secretary is again trying to use the power of the LNC to dictate who a State Party Leadership is for the benefit of her own personal political alliances.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business_hq.lp.org/2014/001552.html" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business_hq.lp.org/2014/001552.html</a><br>
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Please consider the resolution we recently passed and why you should pass your own resolutions of Censure.<br>
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<div>This is not a Libertarian organization we are all a part of and has not been for quite some time.<br>
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<div>Sincerely,<br>
Wes Wagner<br>
Chairperson, Libertarian Party of Oregon<br>
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Wes Wagner<br>
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<div style="clear: both;">Ron Windeler<br>
<a href="mailto:rowindeler@aol.com">rowindeler@aol.com</a><br>
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<div style="color: black; font-family: arial,helvetica; font-size: 10pt;">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Alicia Mattson <<a href="mailto:agmattson@gmail.com">agmattson@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@lp.org">lnc-business@lp.org</a>><br>
Sent: Thu, Aug 7, 2014 12:11 am<br>
Subject: [Lnc-business] Fwd: [Statechairs] Resolution of Censure and Referral of Action against the National Libertarian Party<br>
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<div>I'm just forwarding Wes Wagner's message from the State Chairs' email list.<br>
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-Alicia<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Wes Wagner</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wes.wagner@gmail.com">wes.wagner@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 7:39 AM<br>
Subject: [Statechairs] Resolution of Censure and Referral of Action against the National Libertarian Party<br>
To: State Chairs Group <<a href="mailto:statechairs@hq.lp.org">statechairs@hq.lp.org</a>><br>
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<div>Please be advised that the Libertarian Party of Oregon passed unanimously at our board meeting last night (8/5/2014) the following resolution. It should be also well advised that the past transgressions that gave rise to this situation, most of which were even more egregious, shall be taken into account when we take final resolution of this dispute at our convention. <br>
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<div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family:;">RESOLUTION</span></div>
<div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family:;">Libertarian
Party of Oregon</span></div>
<div align="center" class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-family:;">Board
of Directors Meeting, Beaverton, Oregon</span></div>
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5, 2014</span></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:;">SUBJECT:<span>
</span>2014 Libertarian Party National Convention</span></div>
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<div>WHEREAS the Libertarian Party of Oregon,
founded under Oregon law prior to the founding of the National Libertarian
Party, is an independent organization neither subordinate nor bound by any
contract to the National Libertarian Party,</div>
<div>WHEREAS at the 2014 Libertarian Party National
Convention, the delegation from the Libertarian Party of Oregon was modified by
the convention without the consent, and over the objection, of this state
affiliate,</div>
<div>WHEREAS the National Libertarian Party bylaws
require that “[e]ach state-level affiliate party shall, in accordance with its
own Bylaws and these Bylaws, determine who shall be its delegates to all
Regular Conventions” (NLP bylaws §6(3)),</div>
<div>WHEREAS the National Libertarian Party bylaws
require that “... delegates to a Regular Convention shall be selected by a
method adopted by each affiliate party” (NLP bylaws §11(3)(b)),</div>
<div>WHEREAS the Libertarian Party of Oregon bylaws
make it a duty of the board of directors to appoint delegates (LPO bylaws §5(3)),</div>
<div>WHEREAS the board of directors adopted the
following delegate appointment rule: “to accept applicants in the order they
were received, with later applicants being placed in alternate slots”, (LPO Board
meeting, January 15, 2014),</div>
<div>WHEREAS the Libertarian Party of Oregon
solicited delegates via a sign-up form in our 2014 primary election
announcement letter, mailed to every person registered to vote as a Libertarian
in Oregon,</div>
<div>WHEREAS the Libertarian Party of Oregon also solicited
delegates via a sign-up form in our 2014 primary ballot materials, mailed to
every person registered to vote as a Libertarian in Oregon,</div>
<div>WHEREAS the Libertarian Party of Oregon also solicited
delegates via announcements on our website and other social media,</div>
<div>WHEREAS the National Libertarian Party bylaws
direct that “[a] list of the names and addresses of all delegates and
alternates <i>chosen by each affiliate party</i> shall be sent to the
Credentials Committee” and that “[a]mendments to such lists may be made <i>by
the affiliate parties</i> and submitted to the Credentials Committee” (NLP
bylaws §11(5)(c), emphasis added),</div>
<div>WHEREAS there is no suggestion anywhere in the
National Libertarian Party bylaws that any body other than the state affiliate
party is ever granted the authority to determine its delegation,</div>
<div>WHEREAS the procedure used to modify the
Libertarian Party of Oregon's delegation – amending the Credentials Committee
report – is not permitted by the National Libertarian Party bylaws,</div>
<div>WHEREAS the <i>exclusive</i> means to modify a
delegation during the Convention is provided by §11(5)(e) of the National
Libertarian Party bylaws,</div>
<div>WHEREAS the purpose of the §11(5)(e) provision
is to enable <i>the state affiliate</i> to submit additional members of its
delegation to the Credentials Committee during the convention,</div>
<div>WHEREAS the fact that §11(5)(e) is silent
regarding <i>who</i> may make submissions to the Credentials Committee is <i>not</i>
an implicit grant of authority for any other body to make submissions on the state
affiliate party's behalf, or over its objection,</div>
<div>WHEREAS even if others could make submissions, the
application of §11(5)(e) requires a seven-eighths vote, which was not obtained,</div>
<div>WHEREAS “[m]otions that conflict with the
corporate charter, constitution, or bylaws of a society … are out of order, and
if any motion of this kind is adopted, it is null and void” (RONR (11<sup>th</sup>
ed.), p. 343, ll. 14-17),</div>
<div>WHEREAS the convention did not act to modify or
suspend the National Libertarian Party bylaws in the course of modifying the
Libertarian Party of Oregon's delegation,</div>
<div>WHEREAS the Libertarian National Committee,
aware of these facts, has failed to apologize to the Libertarian Party of Oregon
for violating the autonomy guaranteed to it under the National Libertarian
Party bylaws §6(5), invoking either an erroneous reading of §11(5)(e) or
erroneously believing that its parliamentary authority binds it to defend
actions of the convention even when they are void,</div>
<div>AND WHEREAS the Libertarian Party of Oregon, as
one of the founding affiliates of the National Libertarian Party, is hurt and
saddened by the National Libertarian Party's failure to adhere to its own
bylaws and by its apparent disrespect of this state affiliate party; now,
therefore be it</div>
<div><b>RESOLVED, that the Libertarian Party of
Oregon repudiates the modification of its convention delegation and CENSURES
the National Libertarian Party for that act.</b></div>
<div><b>RESOLVED, that the Libertarian Party of Oregon
invites other Libertarian state parties to join in this censure to support us, to
defend the integrity of their future convention delegations, and to defend
their own autonomy,</b></div>
<div><b>RESOLVED, that the topic of the Libertarian
Party of Oregon's relationship with the National Libertarian Party shall be
placed on the agenda of our next state convention by our Convention Committee.</b></div>
<div><b>RESOLVED, that the long history of the
National Libertarian Party's unacceptable conduct toward the Libertarian Party
of Oregon will be discussed at our convention, with consequences as may be
chosen by our members.</b></div>
<div><b>RESOLVED, that the Libertarian Party of
Oregon will welcome a representative or a statement from the National
Libertarian Party at our convention concerning this matter.</b></div>
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-- <br>
Wes Wagner<br>
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<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<div>Chairperson, Libertarian Party of Oregon<br>
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