<p dir="ltr">Here is Paulies reply to my previous email. Dues exist in the actual serious party, but are irrelevant. </p>
<p dir="ltr">I find this rather pointless, since we're the more successful party, and in any case need not copy them, but, again, there it is. Will advocates of a floor fee who argue from Green practice also advocate to not require dues to hold party office or run for President? </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <<a href="mailto:travellingcircus@gmail.com">travellingcircus@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: Aug 10, 2014 1:45 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Why are there two Green Parties?<br>
To: "Joshua Katz" <<a href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: <br><br type="attribution"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>That is correct, and yes.<br><br></div>Thx,<br><br>
</div>-p<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Joshua Katz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Okay, so both charge dues, the serious large one had a floor fee, but dues are irrelevant in the large one? Thanks for clarifying. May I forward your email? </p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 10, 2014 1:18 PM, <<a href="mailto:travellingcircus@gmail.com" target="_blank">travellingcircus@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div>The small G/GPUSA faction relies primarily on dues. <br><br></div>Scott is pointing out that the larger Green Party also now charges "dues". However, as you correctly pointed out they don't make a big deal out of those, it's just a fundraising tactic (and from what I understand not a very successful one, nor one they have been pushing much). It doesn't mean anything as far as participation in conventions, national party leadership or much of anything at all. <br>
<br></div>The G/GPUSA statement about dues was probably written before the larger Green Party had any "dues" at all...I believe the national Green Party "dues" are a more recent invention (and one that has largely fallen by the wayside since they tried to institute it). <br>
<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 11:11 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lnc-votes@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-votes@hq.lp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Well, the one that charges dues, according to past posts, is the small one less interested in elections, so that would mean the one that is more serious as a party charges neither dues nor a floor fee? </p>
<p dir="ltr">The description of the LP factions on that website is a bit odd. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Joshua Katz </p>
<div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On Aug 10, 2014 1:06 PM, "Scott L." <<a href="mailto:scott73@earthlink.net" target="_blank">scott73@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">The Green Party
organization that charges dues is the same one that has a mandatory Registration
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">I had to triple check
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black"> Scott Lieberman<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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Interesting. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Those of
you that follow the Green Party already know about this.</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">I had a
vague idea that there were a few state Green Parties that were not part of the
National Green Party. But - I had no idea how deep that schism was until
I read this web page:</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<a href="https://www.greenparty.org/why.php" target="_blank">https://www.greenparty.org/why.php</a></span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">I think
LNC members should read that web page, since it shows what the Libertarian
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