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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>In this particular
case, Starchild’s wish is my command.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Scott Lieberman<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
ba-liberty@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ba-liberty@yahoogroups.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Starchild sfdreamer@earthlink.net
[ba-liberty]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 01, 2014
7:19 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Grassroots Libertarians
Caucus; LP Radical Caucus; Independent Political Report; Jill Pyeatt; Paulie
Frankel; LPSF Discussion List; Bay Area Liberty; LPC Candidates List; San Diego
LP Chat List; LP Sunshine Caucus<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [ba-liberty] ACTION ITEM
- Sign on to lobby the LNC on conventions, transparency<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Importance:</span></b> High</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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this out as an experiment to see whether it's worth trying to solicit
co-signers to letters lobbying the LNC, by seeing how many people respond and
how quickly. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></span>If
you agree with what I say below, please write me back ASAP with your name and
state to join me in adding your names to this email response to LNC members, in
support of (1) getting more information and accountability on unnecessary money
spent on conventions, (2) making the party more bottom-up by allowing delegates
more time to debate changes to party rules, platform, and leadership at
conventions, not less, and (3) more transparency.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Love & Liberty,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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((( starchild )))<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business]
convention duration and costs</span></font></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></span>Excellent
call, Daniel! We agree staff's list of unneeded expenses that could cut our
national convention costs in half so we spend $60,000 rather than $120,000
should be documented. As members of the Libertarian Party, we share Daniel's
interest in seeing this information shared, and seeing it acted upon. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></span>While
we welcome and thank Wes Benedict for coming forward with this information,
however, we do <b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>not</span></i></b>
like the idea of shorter conventions as a way of saving money. Conventions are
vital to our party's governance, and they happen only once every two years. We
want a more bottom-up party with <b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;
font-style:italic'>more</span></i></b> time at conventions for members to
engage in party governance (update platform and bylaws, pass resolutions, and
hear debates among candidates for LNC positions), not less. At our June 2014
convention, there was an important resolution that did not get considered
and debated because we ran out of time, and few proposals were considered from
the floor. For those who find the current format boring, longer conventions
would give us time to work in lots of fun stuff and local activism as well as
our business sessions. There should also be a full, open investigation by the
Convention Site Selection Committee into holding conventions at less expensive,
non-traditional venues.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></span>By
the way, we request all of you on the LNC to include your names and contact
info on your email messages to the LNC list, as Wes Benedict did below, to make
it clearer who is saying what. That way LP members reading messages forwarded
from the list will be able to clearly identify who is saying what, and how
to reach them.<o:p></o:p></p>
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For liberty,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Starchild (<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">California</st1:place></st1:State>)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>P.S. - Would a member of the LNC please forward this message to
the LNC list so it appears there for the record, since we cannot post?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Sep 1, 2014, at 6:16 PM, <a href="mailto:lnc-votes@hq.lp.org">lnc-votes@hq.lp.org</a>
wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Wes,<br>
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I am a little lost here..Not sure where Mr Olsen’s referenced email is.
If there are blatant unneeded expenses then please share those here with
us Wes. Consider this a formal request from the District 7
Regional Alternate for the information.<br>
<br>
Daniel Hayes<font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGg<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Wes Benedict <<a
href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I'm confident a survey of members would show people would prefer
shorter conventions. (I think that's what Mr. Olsen is suggesting below.) I
don't recall that question being asked in a survey in recent years. But I
do hear the complaint quite often that the conventions are too long, too boring,
too much parliamentary theatrics, and too expensive. Shorter would be less
boring and less expensive. Training could more easily be fit in before the
convention for those that enjoy hanging around for more days. And for those
that try to squeeze in local sight-seeing, a shorter convention would make it
easier for delegates to join their families. One less average hotel night
per convention would be a great goal.<br>
<br>
LP Texas had over 300 attendees at its 2014 convention at a cheap venue. I
don't know the total budget, but I'd like be interested in knowing. And I'll
take a guess it cost $25,000. <br>
<br>
The 2014 national convention in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ohio</st1:place></st1:State>
cost over $120,000.<br>
<br>
I'm pretty confident Robert Kraus and I could design a pretty good 2018
national convention for 400 to 700 delegates that cost $60,000. That's because
he and I know of a lot of costs at the 2010, 2012, & 2014 conventions
that could have been reduced or avoided. <br>
<br>
$60,000 versus $120,000. Our services and advice are available upon request
(but preferably not this coming week due to other priorities).<br>
<br>
Wes Benedict, Executive Director<br>
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.<br>
New address: <st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">1444 Duke St.</st1:Street>,
<st1:City w:st="on">Alexandria</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">VA</st1:State>
<st1:PostalCode w:st="on">22314</st1:PostalCode></st1:address><br>
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians">facebook.com/libertarians</a>
@LPNational<br>
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership">http://lp.org/membership</a><br>
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On 8/31/2014 1:21 PM, Norm Olsen wrote:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The schedule of official business of the 2018 national convention of
the LNC shall consist of 2½ days, commencing on the morning of Saturday, May
26, 2018 and adjourning by 2PM on Monday, May 28, 2018.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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