<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>All that affiliates have to do right now to get something on the calendar is to drop an email to Eric with the info. That's a pretty low hurdle, yet our affiliates aren't interested enough in the idea to even do that.<br><br></div>I doubt that we would suddenly get more material if we made it harder to get things posted by requiring that they get a username/password and navigate the software to post it themselves. We currently volunteer our staff's time to do it for them if only they will drop us an email, but they don't.<br><br></div>I don't see how increasing the difficulty of putting something on the calendar will result in more material being posted there.<br><br></div>I would not support the idea of allowing people we barely know to be able to post material on our website, people who don't answer even indirectly to the LNC thus don't feel a need to abide by LNC policies. That is a very large can of worms that will result in our spending a lot of time debating policies to try to manage it. If we are to have an event calendar on the site, I'd rather just have staff as the gatekeeper with the simple process we have now of just emailing the info to Eric. If there's not enough material, and staff wants to take it down, our ED can handle that question<br><div><div><br></div><div>-Alicia<br><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Scott L. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scott73@earthlink.net" target="_blank">scott73@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Starchild
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, September 08, 2014
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with Brett and Scott that the calendar (<a href="http://www.lp.org/event" target="_blank">http://www.lp.org/event</a>)
is embarrassing as it is due to the paucity of content, there's a better
solution than deleting it or limiting what's listed there to LNC meetings and
conventions. It would be more embarrassing not to have a calendar on-site at
all, or to have one that's even more limited.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="1" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">Activists won't only be interested in stuff happening in
their own states. People have friends, family, relatives, colleagues living in
other places. People travel -- I've attended Libertarian happenings in other
places while traveling, and we've had out of town people show up at our local
events. We meet people at outreach events who live elsewhere. Of course we
could simply refer these people to their state party's website or something,
but if you want to maximize the likelihood of someone getting involved, it's
better to make it easy for them. That way you can say, "I see here that
the LP in your town meets on (day/time/place)," or "Hey, did you know
the Libertarian Party in your state will be having a _____________ happening at
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">starchild – to “make
it easy for them” in terms of having all events on the National Party’s
web site in addition to the relevant state LP web site, there is a cost in
terms of staff time, but more importantly, the calendar would quickly become
too busy to be useful.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">That is why it is
better to refer prospective attendees to continuously updated event calendars
that are kept on each state party’s web site.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="1" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black">“</span></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Arial">The problem with
just saying "Let the affiliates keep their own calendars" is
that calendars on state party websites tend to suffer from the same
problem -- too few people have access to post events, and consequently little
gets posted, because it's just too much trouble in most cases to contact the state
party with an event, get the info to the right person who can post it to the
website, then wait for them to get the listing up and hope they get it right.
Activists *<i><span style="font-style:italic">might</span></i>* be willing to
deal with this red tape to send in their own events, if they know who to contact
and can rely on the info getting posted promptly, but if they have to go
through this process every time they want to see a libertarian event they come
across that's of interest to LP members posted, they're just not going to be as
likely to do it as if they know they can quickly go and post it themselves and
see it listed right away. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">Here, starchild has
identified something that I agree is a problem. Having only ONE person
who can add events to a web-based calendar assumes that that person is always
available, and never gets sick.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">When the National LP
comes up with a signed contract that all affiliates must sign, I am loathe to
try to use that contract to micromanage our affiliates.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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But - it would be very tempting to include a clause that there must be at least
3 people that have total access to the affiliate’s web site, and that all
3 of them have the ability to add or edit content. That doesn’t
mean they have to be web designers, it just means they should be able to do
simple edits like adding events to calendars or updating the officer list after
each convention.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black"> Scott
Lieberman<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">PS – in the
past, starchild has given me blanket permission to forward any of his personal
e-mails sent to me to anybody, without having to ask his permission. So –
since his e-mail was sent to all LNC members, I assume that he is implicitly
giving me permission to forward his e-mail to the official LNC-Business e-mail
list.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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