<div dir="ltr">I echo all of Dr. Lieberman's comments. I favor the amendment, and I agree with the Secretary's comments in support of her amendment. I also agree that preferably we'll hold this to its purpose - authorizing people to speak for the party internationally, which is certainly what I as a delegate understood the purpose, and that if we decide to spend money (which I'll likely oppose) it should be in a specific way, for a specific purpose, not us budgeting a lump of money, and certainly not directed donations being used to present a message or engage in an activity which we would vote to disallow given the opportunity.<div><div><br></div><div>I also agree with the issue raised that the text as written seems to create an exception to the general prohibition on off-budget expenditures.</div><div><br></div><div>I would add that information can never hurt, and we pay $1,500/month for an FEC consultant whether we make use of her or not. I think we should ask as many questions as we possibly can, as the Treasurer did here.</div><div><br></div><div>Joshua Katz</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz<div><br></div><div>Region 8 (Region of Badassdom) Alternate</div><div>Libertarian National Committee</div><div><br>Chair, Libertarian Party of Connecticut</div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Scott L. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scott73@earthlink.net" target="_blank">scott73@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">“The convention asked to pursue forming an International Association of<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Libertarian Parties. Frankly, I don't know that member funds should be<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">used at all to create a separate organization as opposed to spending on our<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">own organization. The delegates didn't approve this policy. They voted<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">for an idea. They said nothing about spending money.<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">But if money is to be spent for something that is outside of our normal<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">scope, the LNC should have to specifically approve the expenditure. Not<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">just a budget category with a big, round number in it to be used as someone<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">else chooses. Not off-budget things that the LNC may not even know about<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">and hasn't approved. A specific request to spend $X in an itemized way.<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">We should probably inquire with Paula Edwards whether or not there are any<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">FEC restrictions about our spending for international political purposes<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">rather than for political activity in the <u></u><u></u>U.S.<u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Tim, could you inquire about that before our meeting?<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></pre><pre><font face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Alicia”<u></u><u></u></span></font></pre>
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international activity. Of course, the LNC cannot accept contributions from
foreign nationals. Ms. Edwards brought up the possibility of setting up a
separate entity for international activities that can accept non-federal
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