<div dir="ltr">You're right, Alicia, this will be more controversial. I have pushed back against our representing ourselves as being "spoilers" or costing a major party candidate an election, since I think that just feeds the "wasted vote syndrome" and also tends to get us labeled as anti-Republican (since many Republicans and conservatives see us as stealing their votes). Instead we should play up the fact that many of our candidates draw as many or more Democratic votes as Republican ones (in addition to attracting voters who'd refuse to vote for either major candidate).<div><br></div><div>Nonetheless, I think there is also value in pointing our that our candidates are having a significant impact on important races, as evidenced by the fact that our vote totals often far exceed the difference between the major candidates. After all, this is what attracts a lot of media attention -- the horse race aspect. That's why we've gotten so much extra publicity in many of these races. We want both major parties to be worried that we're siphoning votes from them, and that the less libertarian their candidates sound (be they Republicans or Democrats) the more they have to worry about us.</div><div><br></div><div>It's a fine line to walk: We don't want to claim that we were responsible for defeating a Republican or Democrat just because the Libertarian's votes exceeded the margin of victory. But we do want to claim that we are significantly impacting the election, as evidenced by the fact that both major party candidates fell well short of 50% when a Libertarian was in the race. I think we're doing better at walking this line than we have in past years.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't want to straight-jacket our messaging, so I am not inclined to support this proposed Policy Manual amendment.</div><div><br></div><div>Dan Wiener</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Alicia Mattson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agmattson@gmail.com" target="_blank">agmattson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Attached is another policy proposal I would like added to the agenda for the December meeting. My sense is that this will generate more debate than the previous one, so I'll ask for 15 minutes.<br><br></div>This new policy would require that our public communications portray our candidates as people seeking to change public policy by getting themselves elected, not as spoilers who get their kicks by just being monkey wrenches in some other candidate's election plans.<br><br></div>Over the past few years, a large number of state chairs have complained repeatedly about spoiler talk in national party communications. In the 2012 election cycle, one state chair repeatedly asked that one of their candidates not be portrayed that way, yet it continued. Half of the front page of the most recent LP News edition was a table of which candidates might be spoilers.<br><br>First is the obvious philosophical point that other parties don't "own" anyone's vote, therefore we're not "stealing" votes from anyone. Second, I don't think it's true that the presence of our candidates frequently changes the outcome, as exit polls suggest that if our candidates had not been on the ballot, those votes would have been fairly evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans, or those people wouldn't have voted at all. Third, I think we just shoot ourselves in the foot for ballot access fights. The reason the GOP tries so hard to kick us off the ballot after we have qualified is because they believe we play the spoiler role for their candidates. Why would we perpetuate that idea, when we see how many hundreds of thousands of dollars it has cost over the years to defend ballot access challenges? Fourth, it tells the world that we don't even see ourselves as serious candidates.<br><br></div><div>Overall, I think this approach to our image is self-destructive.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div>-Alicia<br><br></font></span></div>
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