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<div> We've got to stop fooling ourselves into believing that college kids are stupid, and can be separated from their hard earned money with gimmicks like food or tee shirts. If we make foolish offers that insult their intelligence, they will go join the Communists, Greens, or, more likely, the "Let's Party" party instead. If the world's smallest political quiz, reading Ann Rand, or Ron Paul caused them join our party for free, but we want their money, we will have to earn it by doing something that brings them more liberty NOW. Everybody is promising them great things later if they send money now. We can't out promise other parties, or expect to be out believed compared to them. But we can out perform other parties if we concentrate on promoting liberty NOW instead of waiting until we elect a majority of libertarians to high offices. College kids today won't send us money today if we promise a better world for their grandchildren's children.</div>
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From: Joshua Katz <planning4liberty@gmail.com><br>
To: lnc-business <lnc-business@hq.lp.org><br>
Sent: Sat, Dec 6, 2014 8:08 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] student memberships for $10?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">In my experience, food attracts college students. I use food to get better student evaluations.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Scott L. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scott73@earthlink.net">scott73@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;">As a general rule, high
school and college students are much more inclined to contribute their labor as
opposed to contributing money.<u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;">If you provide them
with free food, and perhaps some free alcohol if they are over 21, then you can
get a pretty decent amount of volunteer work out of them.<u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="color: black; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt;">All you need to do is
to make the events FUN for them. The people who are best at making events
fun for students are extroverted Libertarians under the age of 28 who still
remember how to party.<u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma"><span style="font-family: Tahoma; font-size: 10pt;"> Lnc-business
[mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Alicia Mattson<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 05, 2014
3:52 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <u></u><a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><u></u><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Lnc-business]
student memberships for $10?</span></font><u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Joshua beat me to one of
my points, that college students can already join the LP for FREE. They
become a member. They get added to our database, and we have their
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<div class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Many of us have at one time been poor college students. We know
what it was like. But I have to disagree with the notion that $25 might
as well be $5,000 to a college student. If they have a car, they probably
buy gas at $3-$4 a gallon. If they take girls out on dinner-and-a-movie
dates, they spend more than $25 on that. Etc.<u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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The responses from the college students said they didn't want to part with ANY
money, not that they could part with $10 but not $25. One of the comments
in that file was from someone who has finished college, has a wife, and is
paying off student loans, but still wouldn't part with $25, and they wouldn't
be eligible for the proposed student membership.<br>
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Lots of times the lack of money is a convenient excuse to give when they feel a
need to say something but don't really want to explain the real reason. <u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">If you want do so some
sort of student promotion, there is an easier way than creating a new
membership category and the necessary CRM changes that go with it. Just
have a promotional deal. If you become a party member and send us a copy
of your current student ID card, we'll send you a coupon to get a $10 shirt, or
a $10 backpack, or whatever. I wouldn't want to give promo items that
cost us more than the $10 to purchase and ship), so that we'd be losing money
for every student that joins, but if our costs are covered, wouldn't that
accomplish what you're looking to do?<u></u><u></u></span></font></div>
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