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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I think in some states you can get a
definitive answer as to whether or not a signature is valid, like
Virgina? However, I think in many, it's a case where internal
validators (the Libertarian petition organizers) are making
educated guesses as to whether or not a signature is valid before
it is submitted to the state. <br>
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In Texas in 2004, we collected over 80,000 signatures. I don't
think we were ever told which ones were valid. Perhaps the info
was available, but not until two or three months after the drive
was over. In the intermediate time, one person in Houston had a
group inspecting them. They were marking many of them invalid that
I thought were probably valid. I had lots of arguments with the
Houston people, and finally won. I didn't want them crossing off
signatures that might be considered good by the state of Texas.
And this had nothing to do with paying anyone commissions.<br>
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There is significant value to dealing with petitioners who have a
reputation of getting the job done with decent validity. <br>
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I favor keeping the contracts simple, and would prefer a more
expensive $2.50 flat rate with reliable petitioners, than a
complicated process with cheaper per sig but much higher overhead.<br>
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<small><small>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.<br>
<b>New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314</b><br>
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
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On 12/9/2014 12:44 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">What about something like $1.00 per raw sig plus
$2.00 per valid sig?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz
<div>Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM, Wes
Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span>
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<div>Here's a proposal to save money on ballot access. <br>
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Instead of spending $2.50 per signature for most states
most of the time, look for opportunities to spend less
where the risk is low and time to experiment exits. You
offer it at $2.00, and see if any reputable petitioners
come forward. Then get the drive done for $2/sig if they
come forward. If not, up the price. I wouldn't mess
around with low-ball offers like 50 cents, etc. You'll
get lots of takers that won't actually get anything
done. <br>
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By the way, I've also suggested the opposite direction,
when the risk is high, and time is short. Instead of
spending $2/signature, I've suggested spending $2.50 (so
you don't end up with emergencies paying for flights,
hotels, etc.) <br>
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Even if my suggestion is rejected, overall, I think
we're getting great deal on petitioning at $2.50.<br>
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Recently, at the insistence of the Audit Committee and
our former Chair Geoff Neale, we instituted written
contracts. Those have worked incredibly well in my
opinion. They have eliminated most of the fights about
whether nor not someone promised someone to cover some
hotel or gas or rental car or not and the receipt is
lost and on and on. <br>
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$2.50 per sig. No expenses. No hassles. It's a great
deal. $2/sig is a little better (when it works).<br>
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<div>Wes Benedict, Executive Director<br>
<small><small>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.<br>
<b>New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA
22314</b><br>
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href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org"
target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
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target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a>
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<span class=""> On 12/9/2014 12:11 PM, William Redpath
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<div dir="ltr">Attached. See you in New Orleans.
Thanks, Bill Redpath</div>
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