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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I don’t like
opining on the State Chairs list because I am not a State Chair, but this topic
cries out for a reply.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Although I would have
taken a somewhat less strident tone than the Chair of the LP of Nevada, I agree
with Mr. Pojunis’s point.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Gathering intelligence
on foreign leaders and foreign countries is something that the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States</st1:place></st1:country-region>
must do as a legitimate function of defending the country from foreign
invaders.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Perhaps a better way
of phrasing the press release would have been to ask that the CIA limit itself
to the function stated in its name.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>In other words –
although negative phraseology like that used by the LNC Chair in that press
release certainly appeals <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>to a small segment of
the population, if you want to make the Libertarian Party a <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>real political party</span></b>™ it is
better to be as positive as possible and yes – sound “reasonable.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Just because an
antiwar.com might eat up such a press release does not mean such releases will
increase our membership, or increase our vote totals. You have to look at
the number of members and potential voters that you turn off, as well as the
ones who love that kind of strident verbiage.<br>
<br>
Scott Lieberman<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>“</span></font>I
just started an opinion poll on the LP Oregon facebook group... too early to
tell but on a scale of 1 to 5, 5 being love it, 1 being hate it... there are 3
votes for 5 and one vote for 3. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I will report back in a
few days.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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</span></font>Wes<font color=black><span style='color:black'>”</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Brett H. Pojunis <<a
href="mailto:brett@pojunis.com" target="_blank">brett@pojunis.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Has anyone else in the party been contacted by their
members/leaders about this email from national calling for abolishing the CIA.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>This is 100% crazy and whoever put this out should have
their head examined. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Americans do NOT want to read nonsensical stuff like
shutting down the CIA, they just don't. This is placating to a very small
audience and this is EXACTLY the type of thing that hurt us, all of us. If this
is what you really believe, then keep it to yourself and deliver a broader
message that resonates with more people. Example, <i><span style='font-style:
italic'>"The LP is applauded at the actions taken by the CIA and the
elected officials who enable them. We intend to push this issues as torture is
something that goes against Libertarian Philosophy. THEN TALK ABOUT SOMETHING
POSITIVE and turn a negative into something people will relate to."</span></i><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>At this point I am requesting that no more members in <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Nevada</st1:place></st1:State> be contacts by
the National office under any circumstances. I do not have the time to field
phone calls, upset members stopping by the office, private messages on
Facebook, talking our leadership off the edge, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>This type of "official position" is killing us
in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Nevada</st1:place></st1:State> and
I am sure other states as well. If it doesn't stop then we are going to focus
our efforts on identifying how confused National "leadership" is and
we will do our own PR campaign against the this type of craziness.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Anyone who thinks this type of communication to the public
is helping should resign from a leadership as they are clearly confused. I
agree that we need to take a radical approach like we do in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Nevada</st1:place></st1:State> on many issues, but we must pick and
chose our battles carefully.</span></font><br>
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Brett H. Pojunis<br>
Chairman of the Libertarian Party of <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Nevada</st1:place></st1:State><font
color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p style='margin-bottom:24.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>For immediate release<br>
December 11, 2014<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<h2><b><font size=5 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Libertarian
Party calls for shutting down CIA, criminal prosecutions<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h2>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Libertarian
National Committee Chair Nicholas J. Sarwark released the following
statement today:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"The
CIA’s practice of torture confirmed by the Senate Intelligence Report
released on December 9 shows the agency engaged in reprehensible and
illegal behaviors that were, in effect, war crimes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"The
CIA and politicians redacted the bulk of the government’s report,
which remains withheld from public view. One can only speculate as to the
additional horrors that lie within the rest of the report, given the
gravity of what was revealed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"These
acts of torture were immoral, disgusting, and un-American. And worse
still, they were ineffective.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"Yet
the CIA and the Department of Justice, which sanctioned the torture, claim
that it was legal and exhibit a shocking lack of remorse for the brutality
inflicted on its victims.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"Whether
it's choking a man to death for selling loose cigarettes in <st1:State
w:st="on">New York</st1:State> or torturing prisoners at <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName
w:st="on">Guantanamo</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Bay</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>,
the government refuses to prosecute government employees who brutalize the
vulnerable. When the government investigates itself, it almost always
clears itself of any<br>
wrongdoing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"This
is why we must shut down the CIA. Its 70-year history is littered with
episodes of human rights violations, illegal activities, and deception,
including:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Targeted killings and assassinations<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Overthrowing democratically elected
governments,<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Human experimentation, including giving the
hallucinogenic drug LSD to <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region> and Canadian citizens
without their knowledge<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Dealing heroin in <st1:place w:st="on">Asia</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Spying on Americans, members of congress, and
foreign leaders<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Shipping war prisoners to foreign countries
where torture is permissible (‘extraordinary rendition’).<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Lying to Congress<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>"The CIA is one of sixteen <st1:country-region
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:country-region> spy agencies that should have been
severely downsized if not abolished during the alleged
‘consolidation’ of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region> government’s
spy apparatus in 2004. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"But
rather than downsize, politicians merely added another layer of
bureaucracy, increased government spending, and expanded government
authority.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"Government-sanctioned
torture is bipartisan. Republican President George W. Bush authorized the
torture revealed in the senate report. President Barack Obama granted him
full immunity.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"Famed
journalist Glenn Greenwald said ‘The Obama
administration's aggressive, full-scale whitewashing of the “war
on terror” crimes committed by Bush officials is now
complete.’<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"Whereas
Democrats and Republicans have continually funded and encouraged CIA war
crimes, the Libertarian Party has consistently and strongly opposed the use
of torture, mass surveillance, and human rights violations by the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">U.S.</st1:place></st1:country-region>
government throughout the party's 43-year history. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"The
Libertarian Party calls for real accountability, including prosecuting all
of those who authorized and performed these brutal acts.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"The
Senate Intelligence Committee released its report after this year’s
election - when it was safe, even though the report was finished
four years ago.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"Perhaps
both Democratic and Republican politicians are hoping voters will forget
about this disgrace before the 2016 election.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"The
Libertarian Party urges you to remember -- and to demand human decency by
voting Libertarian."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>The
Libertarian Party platform plank on Internal Security and Individual Rights
states:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>"The
defense of the country requires that we have adequate intelligence to
detect and to counter threats to domestic security. This requirement must
not take priority over maintaining the civil liberties of our citizens. The
Constitution and Bill of Rights shall not be suspended even during time of
war. Intelligence agencies that legitimately seek to preserve the security
of the nation must be subject to oversight and transparency. We oppose the
government's use of secret classifications to keep from the public
information that it should have, especially that which shows that the
government has violated the law."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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