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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I assume the LNC
controls the state chairs e-mail list.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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I can’t move motions, but I suggest we have an e-mail ballot that warns both Dr
Phillies and Mr. Weinman that insults like the ones below will not be tolerated
on the State Chairs e-mail list, and that future offenses will result in their
posting privileges being revoked.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I hope this board is
not so open minded that we are willing to permit the State Chairs e-mail list
to degenerate into <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>kindergarten-level
name calling.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Statechairs
[mailto:statechairs-bounces@hq.lp.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Jason Weinman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, December 27, 2014
1:49 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> George Phillies<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">statechairs@hq.lp.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Statechairs] Ballot
Access</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>George, if I am not now, and have never been, a member of the
Republican party. If you have a problem with me on issues, please, I'd love to
discuss it. I never supported Wayne Allen Root, and I bet that your views
are closer to his than mine (branding people who disagree as
"enemies," and mischaracterizing other people's views). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I do think of you as a fascist, George. You seem not to think that
private individuals can discriminate on any grounds that they want,
or set any rules they like, as long as all parties agree. Not only is that
ideologically unlibertarian, but it's bad for the party. We met at the National
Convention, where you made clear that you would oppose any structure for the LP
other than one focused on conventions and candidate recruitment, even if
if it were more effective. You consider any other opinion
"unlibertarian," because you don't know what the word means. Hint: it
doesn't have anything to do with conventions. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Your commitment to running as many candidates as possible is
indefensible after 40 years of failure. I want to move public policy in a
libertarian direction, and we're accomplishing that in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Nevada</st1:place></st1:State>. What are your goals, George? Ban
GMOs and "investigate" chemtrails? You're supposed to be a
"professor?" What exactly do you teach? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>At this point, if you still want to help, you should resign.
If you want to simply maintain your "position" as the king of the
Irrelevant Libertarian Discussion Club of Massachusetts, you should be
drummed out of the party.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Saturday, December 27, 2014, George Phillies <<a
href="mailto:phillies@4liberty.net">phillies@4liberty.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>This is a general comment.<br>
<br>
We see discussions of "ballot access" and whether or not a state
libertarian group has "ballot access".<br>
<br>
The phrase "ballot access" has so many meanings that it does not mean
a great deal, or means different things to different people.<br>
<br>
We have to live with it, though some people are less polite about than others.<br>
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Some people on the LNC use the phrase to mean only that they can get a
Presidential candidate on the ballot without spending much money, sometimes by
ignoring the issues that can get in the way. In other places, the question is
what the ballot paper reads, even though what the press reports can be quite
different.<br>
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Thus, for example, one of our party's most successful US Senate candidates, in
terms of recent press coverage, was Joe Kennedy, complete with his full-length
covering article in the NY Times Sunday magazine. However, he actually ran as
"<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Liberty</st1:place></st1:City>",
and was happy to agree that if he had petitioned as
"Libertarian" he would not have gotten onto the ballot, due to our
temporarily being stuck with major party status. However, he always said
"Libertarian" when he spoke, and that was the message heard by the
public.<br>
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Having said that, we are a political party, and our objective is to advance our
positions by electing people to office, and also the other important aspects of
political action.<br>
<br>
People who oppose our party running candidates for office are enemies of our
party.<br>
<br>
We already had this problem with the <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Nevada</st1:place></st1:State>
party before in 2012 when then LPNV member of the LNC endorsed the Republican
fascists' candidate for President. (Fascist? Let's see: Launches wars of
aggression. Loves to torture people. Sets up a national police
surveillance state. Imprisons citizens without trial. Equips the local
constabulary with machine guns, grenade launchers, and armored vehicles. Pays
off the local plutocracy, the corporate bankster state. Reduces women to
baby-hatching wombs that walk. Yes, Republicans are fascists, don't forget
it. And Goddess bless the greatest living American Patriot, Edward
Snowden, for tearing the veil off their misdeeds.) It's up to the good
Libertarians of Nevada to cope with this issue as they see fit.<br>
<br>
However, people who say that we should not be running candidates for office are
enemies of our party. And most of them are Republicans, sometimes in
disguise.<br>
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