<div dir="ltr">I believe I addressed all of the points raised by the immediate ex-chair already, in clarifying that I am not asking for "speaking welfare." I do note that the dismissal of "water policy" is similar to what I described in my last letter. Mr. Neale's point is well-taken on the fact that a paid speaker cannot be a delegate, and that a major speaker cannot run for the LNC, although "major" is left undefined. I do not know if Mr. Sarvis signed such a statement, but I don't think that sort of speech would be qualified as major - although I can easily be wrong about that. I would be surprised if many elected Libertarians wanted to be officers on the LNC, given that all or almost all of our elected officials serve in unpaid capacities, and thus have the equivalent of two jobs already (unless they don't also have a paid job.) <div><br></div><div>I believe the minutes of the last LNC meeting contain further information on how the party may and may not interact financially with delegates.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz<div>Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Scott L. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scott73@earthlink.net" target="_blank">scott73@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I complained about this very topic on the LNC e-mail list as soon as the first
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Since you shared
your letter with us, I hope you will do the same, and share my response with
those same friends.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">I am under the
impression that the intention of the CMC is to run a successful convention,
which will be judged first by whether or not it loses money, and second by how
many people show up. As such, who is chosen to speak is a simple matter
of ROI. Do you have any evidence to show the LNC that focusing on minor elected
officials will improve our attendance? Will having a water policy panel
of elected water board officials like the one scheduled for the <u></u>California<u></u> convention incent libertarians from across the
country to come to <u></u><u></u>Columbus<u></u><u></u>?
I would dearly like some supporting facts that I can use to measure whether or
not the CMC should schedule only elected libertarians. Do you have them?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Okay, what about
personal experience? How many state or national conventions have you been
actively involved in? What is the basis of your perspective? Well?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Can you please
provide me with the name of one elected Libertarian whose name recognition and
reputation for inspirational speaking will increase the attendance? I am sure
there will be a number of both candidates and elected officials speaking at the
convention, but we have not yet promoted them. I have no evidence that
promoting minor elected officials affects attendance, but I do know that people
are positive about the speakers on the schedule so far. Perhaps if those
elected officials were Senators, or Governors, or Representatives it
would. Sell me.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">I do not say this to
denigrate the fine individuals who have gotten elected and are now serving, but
you raised the fact that the majority of speakers at the Democratic and
Republican national conventions are elected officials. Yes they are, and
they represent a microscopic percentage of their respective party’s
elected officials. They are not chosen to speak because they are elected
– they are chosen because they are dynamic and inspirational
speakers. If we have such people, then by all means we should schedule
them. Please enlighten us with a list of dynamic and inspirational
elected libertarians that are either NOT going to be delegates, or will pay all
of their own expenses. Oh – be sure to tell them that they will be
forbidden from running for any LNC position.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">If we do it your
way, will you personally cover any shortfall due to low attendance?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Since you’re
such an expert, why haven’t you volunteered to be on the CMC or the COC (or
any other LNC committee for that matter)?<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">In closing, I might
be more receptive to your opinion if it was not for the perception I have that
all you do is whine and moan about what other people are doing, while doing
nothing of value to the LNC, or the Libertarian Party, or to the liberty
movement in general. Heck – you wait until this late to voice your
opinion that we should be focusing on elected officials as speakers? Did
it take this long for you to come to this opinion, or have you just been waiting
to criticize the work of others, while doing no work that anyone can
criticize? Never mind – I know the answer to that question.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Geoffrey Neale<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Libertarian National
Committee<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d" face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">PS: Attendance at
the National Convention is not mandatory.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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