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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Richard Winger sent me
the reply below.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I am sure he is
correct, but we are coming off an election in which the Republicans got ballot
status for a fake political party in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:State w:st="on">New
York</st1:State></st1:place>. This might be the first time in a
long time that the Republicans have benefitted from one of those fake parties.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Since NY State is a
Democrat fiefdom at the state level, it is possible that this bill might get traction
during this legislative session.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I am not forwarding
this or the remaining replies that I make to Mr. Winger and Mr. Axinn because they
are not on the LNC and it gets messy to involve non-list members in these
threads, but feel free to forward this to them if you think it will help.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>The reason I am
bringing this topic up is perhaps LPHQ staff can offer my list of lobbying
experts to LPNY, and perhaps someone else can think of something that the LNC
can do to help the situation in NY. We have never retained ballot access
in NY – if this bill gets traction it would be helpful to have this bill do
some good, instead of just making things even more difficult in NY.<br>
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Scott Lieberman<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Richard Winger
[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">richardwinger@yahoo.com</st1:PersonName>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 15, 2015
7:54 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Scott L.; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">lnc-business@lp.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Bad ballot access
bill proposed in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New York</st1:place></st1:State></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Assemblyman
Gary Pretlow has been introducing this same bill for several sessions in a row,
and it has never made any progress.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'>Richard
Winger<br>
415-922-9779<br>
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">PO Box 470296</st1:Street>, <st1:City
w:st="on">San Francisco</st1:City></st1:address> Ca 94147<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Scott L. <<st1:PersonName
w:st="on">scott73@earthlink.net</st1:PersonName>><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lnc-business@lp.org</st1:PersonName>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 15, 2015
6:39 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Bad ballot access bill
proposed in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New York</st1:place></st1:State></span></font><font
size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>“<a
href="http://www.ballot-access.org/2015/01/new-york-bill-to-make-definition-of-political-party-more-restrictive/"
target="_blank">Ballot Access News</a>: (via IPR)</span></font><font
size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:
Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>New York
Assemblyman Gary Pretlow (D-Mt. Vernon) has introduced AB 838. It would alter
the definition of “political party” from a group that got 50,000
votes for Governor, to a group that got 100,000 votes for Governor. If passed,
it would take effect for elections starting in 2016. Thus, it would remove the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Independence</st1:place></st1:City> ,
Women’s Equality, and Stop Common Core Parties from the ballot.”</span></font><font
size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><cite><i><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
font-style:normal'>And the Chair of the LPNY commented on IPR:</span></font></i></cite><font
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><cite><b><i><font size=3
color=black face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;
font-weight:bold'>“Mark Axinn</span></font></i></b></cite><cite><i><font
size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:
Helvetica;color:black'> </span></font></i></cite><font size=4 color=black
face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><a
href="http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2015/01/new-york-bill-to-make-definition-of-political-party-more-restrictive/#comment-1069415"
target="_blank">January 13, 2015 at 7:34 am</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Obviously, if
this bill were ever enacted, it would be a disaster for the Libertarian Party
of New York. I urge every New Yorker to contact his/her local Assemblymember
and urge him/her to oppose this Draconian restriction.” </span></span></font><font
size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Dear
fellow LNC members:</span></font><font size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I disagree
with the Chair of the LPNY. Since the LPNY has failed the current vote
test 10 in a row since 1972, this bill would be psychologically annoying,
but it would not in any way be a “disaster”. The LPNY has
never had semi-permanent ballot access, so they would not be losing anything.</span></font><font
size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>If
I lived in New York, I would be heavily lobbying to add to that bill the
requirement that the Elections Department change the ballot layout so
that each party on the ballot gets its own column (Row?), and that <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>all</span></b> statewide offices count for the vote
test. And maybe change the vote test from 50,000 votes to 2% or 3% of the
vote for Governor. (1% would be nice, but would probably fall on
deaf ears).</span></font><font size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I
suspect there are not enough minor party activists who care enough to complain,
so directly opposing the bill will, IMO, not work.</span></font><font size=4
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Scott Lieberman</span></font><font size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span
style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>bcc:
Mark Axinn, Richard Winger (bcc to protect their e-mail addresses
from spammers)</span></font><font size=4 color=black face=Helvetica><span
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