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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>If the LPNY had its
own column (or row) on the ballot, and can use all 3 of the offices Mr. Axinn
lists, then 2%, or even 3%, is very achievable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Look at past LP
election results in other states on the LP web site. Many, many LP candidates
for statewide office get over 3.0% of the vote, whether for that office, or 3%
of the vote for Governor.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>And it is probably
possible to make sure US Senate counts, as long as it doesn’t screw up the 4
years of ballot access for passing the vote test.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
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Scott Lieberman<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> bcc: Mark Axinn<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mark axinn</st1:PersonName> [mailto:markaxinn@hotmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 15, 2015
11:31 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Scott Lieberman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Bad ballot access
bill proposed in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New York</st1:place></st1:State></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>There were just under
4,000,000 votes cast for Governor/Lt. Gov., Comptroller and Attorney
General in the last election.</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><br>
<br>
<font color=black><span style='color:black'>2% would require us to get 80,000
votes. 3% is 120,000.</span></font><br>
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<font color=black><span style='color:black'>Much worse than the current
situation. <br id=FontBreak>
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<br>
Mark <br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">scott73@earthlink.net</st1:PersonName><br>
To: markaxinn@hotmail.com<br>
Subject: FW: Bad ballot access bill proposed in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">New York</st1:place></st1:State><br>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 10:33:16 -0800<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>You can see all of the
lnc-business e-mails on the LP web site, but I will make it easier for you by
cc’ing you.</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I forgot to do a blind
cc on the original.</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:
Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><br>
Scott Lieberman</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:
Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Lnc-business
[mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Scott L.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 15, 2015
10:21 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lnc-business@lp.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Lnc-business] FW: Bad ballot
access bill proposed in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New York</st1:place></st1:State></span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Since he wants you to
see it, I am forwarding the LPNY Chair’s e-mail to the rest of you.</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>If the LP of NY was
self-funding all of their ballot access drives, then I would agree with the LPNY
Chair’s comment immediately below.</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>However, since most or
all of their ballot access petitions have had substantial financial support
from the National LP, then <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>IT IS </span></b>the
LNC’s business to make sure that our affiliates are taking the best possible actions
to minimize their need for financial support from the National LP for future
ballot access drives.</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:
Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Even if the LPNY is
successful in somehow stopping this new bill, that will not get them any closer
to not needing</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>tens of thousands of dollars
of National LP money every 2 years for the foreseeable future.</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'><br>
I hope that my fellow LNC members would like to save our National LP members as
much money as possible by helping LPNY lobby for a new ballot access bill that
requires the NY State election ballot to have separate columns for each party
that is on that ballot, and for their vote test to be a more typical 2% or 3%
for any statewide office, and that passing the vote test gives 4 years of
ballot access (currently passing the vote test does give 4 years of ballot
access in NY, but you have to make sure you don’t mess that up when you write a
new bill).</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>As I have mentioned
before, we have 3 LP members who have successfully lobbied for better ballot
access laws who have volunteered to give free advice on lobbying to our
affiliates for situations just like this one.</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> Scott Lieberman</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">mark axinn</st1:PersonName> [mailto:markaxinn@hotmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 15, 2015
9:48 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Scott Lieberman<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> LP-State Chairs; Arvin Vohra;
Richard Tomasso; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Vicki Kirkland</st1:PersonName>;
William Redpath; Josh Katz; Dan Wiener; Alicia Mattson; Tim Hagen; Norm Olsen;
Jim Lark; Sam Goldstein; Evan McMahon; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Guy McLendon</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Bad ballot access
bill proposed in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New York</st1:place></st1:State></span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black'>Scott--</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><br>
<br>
<font color=black><span style='color:black'>Obviously, I disagree with you, as
does my membership. Please do not tell us how to run things in <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New York</st1:place></st1:State> and I promise
not to meddle into the affairs of the California LP.</span></font><br>
<br>
<font color=black><span style='color:black'>Thank you. </span></font><br>
<br>
Mark Axinn<br>
<br>
P.S. Since you sent your message to the LNC and I do not have access to
that list, I am cc'g those members for whom I do have email addresses. I
am sure I am leaving several others out, and of course do so merely because I
don't have their addresses. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>From: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">scott73@earthlink.net</st1:PersonName><br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lnc-business@lp.org</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: Bad ballot access bill proposed in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">New York</st1:place></st1:State><br>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 06:39:27 -0800<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>“<a
href="http://www.ballot-access.org/2015/01/new-york-bill-to-make-definition-of-political-party-more-restrictive/"
target="_blank">Ballot Access News</a>: (via IPR)</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><br>
New York Assemblyman Gary Pretlow (D-Mt. Vernon) has introduced AB 838. It
would alter the definition of “political party” from a group that got 50,000
votes for Governor, to a group that got 100,000 votes for Governor. If passed,
it would take effect for elections starting in 2016. Thus, it would remove the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Independence</st1:place></st1:City>, Women’s
Equality, and Stop Common Core Parties from the ballot.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><cite><b><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></i></b></cite><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><cite><i><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-style:normal'>And the Chair of the LPNY commented
on IPR:</span></font></i></cite><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:
Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></i></b></cite><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'> </span></font></i></b></cite><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><cite><b><i><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>“Mark Axinn</span></font></i></b></cite><cite><i><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'> </span></font></i></cite><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><a
href="http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2015/01/new-york-bill-to-make-definition-of-political-party-more-restrictive/#comment-1069415"
target="_blank"><time datetime="2015-01-13T07:34:53+00:00">January 13, 2015 at
7:34 am</time></a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Obviously, if this bill were ever enacted, it would be a disaster for
the Libertarian Party of New York. I urge every New Yorker to contact his/her
local Assemblymember and urge him/her to oppose this Draconian restriction.” </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'> </span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Dear fellow LNC members:</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>I disagree with the Chair of the LPNY. Since the LPNY
has failed the current vote test 10 in a row since 1972, this bill would
be psychologically annoying, but it would not in any way be a “disaster”.
The LPNY has never had semi-permanent ballot access, so they would not be
losing anything.</span></font><font face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>If I lived in New York, I would be heavily lobbying to add
to that bill the requirement that the Elections Department change the
ballot layout so that each party on the ballot gets its own column (Row?), and
that <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>all</span></b> statewide offices count
for the vote test. And maybe change the vote test from 50,000 votes to 2%
or 3% of the vote for Governor. (1% would be nice, but would probably
fall on deaf ears).</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>I suspect there are not enough minor party activists who
care enough to complain, so directly opposing the bill will, IMO, not work.</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'> Scott Lieberman</span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'> </span></font><font face=Calibri><span
style='font-family:Calibri'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>bcc: Mark Axinn, Richard Winger (bcc to
protect their e-mail addresses from spammers)</span></font><font
face=Calibri><span style='font-family:Calibri'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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