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Dear Geoff:<br>
<br>
I hope all is well with you. In one of your recent message to
Alicia Mattson concerning the IALP, you wrote the following:<br>
<br>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Dr.
Lark is a member of the Facebook group where all communications,
including announcement of the conference, and the charter, were
distributed. All of the countries that have already ratified the
charter, and those intending to, have access to the group. By the
way, Arvin Vohra and Nick Sarwark are also on the same group. I
have no clue whether or not these individuals have notifications
turned on or off, or whether any have visited the group page, but
the information that has been seen by Belgium, Russia, France,
Germany, Italy, Tunisia, Australia, Brazil, Argentina, etc. and
did not slip their notice.</span><br>
<br>
Allow me to share some information with you regarding this
matter; please note that I have taken the liberty of copying my LNC
colleagues with this message. When I read your comments, I assumed
that you were referring to another Libertarian Facebook group of
which we are both members and for which I receive notifications of
new content. I was surprised by your suggestion that information
regarding a draft charter had been posted, because I could not find
any such information on the pages associated with this group.<br>
<br>
However, after conducting a search of Facebook groups I came
across the IALP Forward Planning Group, and discovered to my
surprise that I am a member of the group; apparently I was added to
the group by Guy Montrose several months ago. However, for some
reason I was unaware of the group's existence. I do not know
whether this is due to a problem with the Facebook notification
mechanism or whether I didn't notice information indicating that Mr.
Montrose had subscribed me to the group. <br>
<br>
In any event, I did not know about the group until a few minutes
ago. Since you did not mention it explicitly in your message to Ms.
Mattson, allow me to note that you made the draft charter available
to the IALP planning group members in a posting on Feb. 1. Had I
been aware of the posting, I would have reviewed the draft and
offered my comments. <br>
<br>
As always, thanks for your work for liberty. <br>
<br>
Take care,<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
James W. Lark, III<br>
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition<br>
University of Virginia<br>
<br>
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/10/2015 12:56 AM, Alicia Mattson
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<div dir="ltr">Forwarding Geoff's reply to my comments.<br>
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From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Geoffrey Neale</b> <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:liber8or@austin.rr.com">liber8or@austin.rr.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:38 PM<br>
Subject: RE: IALP charter questions<br>
To: Alicia Mattson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:agmattson@gmail.com">agmattson@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Alicia,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
motion as passed by the Convention in 2014 was:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Be
it resolved that the assembled delegates of the 2014
Libertarian National Convention hereby call for the
creation of an International Association of
Libertarian Parties.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">And
whereas, our outgoing chair, Geoffrey Neale, has
pursued this effort, we recommend that he be
appointed by the LNC as a representative to begin
discussions with our counterparts in other
countries.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I
don’t see any specificity in this resolution at all
as to the LNC reviewing anything. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Dr.
Lark is a member of the Facebook group where all
communications, including announcement of the
conference, and the charter, were distributed. All
of the countries that have already ratified the
charter, and those intending to, have access to the
group. By the way, Arvin Vohra and Nick Sarwark are
also on the same group. I have no clue whether or
not these individuals have notifications turned on
or off, or whether any have visited the group page,
but the information that has been seen by Belgium,
Russia, France, Germany, Italy, Tunisia, Australia,
Brazil, Argentina, etc. and did not slip their
notice.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">As
to all of the rest, you spent way too much time
writing.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">There
is no organization yet. This is a STARTUP. We
cannot consult with a professional (paid)
parliamentarian because we don’t exist, don’t have a
bank account, etc. This first meeting in person is
the meeting in David Nolan’s living room that
started the LP in the first place. I don’t know
just how many of these things they worked out that
first day, but it was nowhere near as large as your
list. If they had to do this first, the LP would
not exist today.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
reason we are meeting in person is exactly so that
we can work out these issues face to face. The
reason why the charter is skeletal in nature is to
define a scope of the organization as a basis, and
add the necessary muscle – face to face. If we had
to get agreement before the organization exists,
what does Robert’s say about how to count the votes?
Can Robert’s apply to a non-entity. How could we
weigh votes from parties unlikely to join, who are
looking for reasons to say no, versus parties that
are trying to make it work? If the LNC votes not to
join, why should anyone else give a damn what their
concerns are?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It
will cost the LNC and the LP nothing to join, and
they can leave if sufficient progress is not made in
short order, for whatever reason you like. Heck you
can join on March 6<sup>th</sup>, and leave on March
9<sup>th</sup>. If things take a distinctly negative
slant, I’ll be holding the door for the LNC and the
LP. The LNC can also pass along their concerns if
they vote to join, and their representative will
raise their concerns at the meeting.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">However,
it has been made clear to me that the creation of
the IALP will proceed with or without the USLP. If
it is without, it would be a shame. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Perfection
is ALWAYS the enemy of the good. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">However,
I will be passing your list, which you admit is just
a first glance, on to the group. I think it will
serve a very valuable purpose. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Geoffrey
Neale</span></p>
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