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Dear colleagues:<br>
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I hope all is well with you. Allow me to mention that Geoff
Neale informed me of his distribution of an earlier version of the
draft charter roughly two weeks prior to posting the document I
mentioned in my previous message. He indicated that the document
posted on Feb. 1 was a revision based upon feedback concerning the
earlier version.<br>
<br>
As always, thanks for your work for liberty. I look forward to
seeing you in Phoenix next month.<br>
<br>
Take care,<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
James W. Lark, III<br>
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition<br>
University of Virginia<br>
<br>
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee<br>
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Dear Geoff:<br>
<br>
I hope all is well with you. In one of your recent message to
Alicia Mattson concerning the IALP, you wrote the following:<br>
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<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Dr.
Lark is a member of the Facebook group where all communications,
including announcement of the conference, and the charter, were
distributed. All of the countries that have already ratified
the charter, and those intending to, have access to the group.
By the way, Arvin Vohra and Nick Sarwark are also on the same
group. I have no clue whether or not these individuals have
notifications turned on or off, or whether any have visited the
group page, but the information that has been seen by Belgium,
Russia, France, Germany, Italy, Tunisia, Australia, Brazil,
Argentina, etc. and did not slip their notice.</span><br>
<br>
Allow me to share some information with you regarding this
matter; please note that I have taken the liberty of copying my
LNC colleagues with this message. When I read your comments, I
assumed that you were referring to another Libertarian Facebook
group of which we are both members and for which I receive
notifications of new content. I was surprised by your suggestion
that information regarding a draft charter had been posted,
because I could not find any such information on the pages
associated with this group.<br>
<br>
However, after conducting a search of Facebook groups I came
across the IALP Forward Planning Group, and discovered to my
surprise that I am a member of the group; apparently I was added
to the group by Guy Montrose several months ago. However, for
some reason I was unaware of the group's existence. I do not know
whether this is due to a problem with the Facebook notification
mechanism or whether I didn't notice information indicating that
Mr. Montrose had subscribed me to the group. <br>
<br>
In any event, I did not know about the group until a few
minutes ago. Since you did not mention it explicitly in your
message to Ms. Mattson, allow me to note that you made the draft
charter available to the IALP planning group members in a posting
on Feb. 1. Had I been aware of the posting, I would have reviewed
the draft and offered my comments. <br>
<br>
As always, thanks for your work for liberty. <br>
<br>
Take care,<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
James W. Lark, III<br>
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition<br>
University of Virginia<br>
<br>
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/10/2015 12:56 AM, Alicia Mattson
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Forwarding Geoff's reply to my comments.<br>
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From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Geoffrey Neale</b> <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:liber8or@austin.rr.com">liber8or@austin.rr.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 9:38 PM<br>
Subject: RE: IALP charter questions<br>
To: Alicia Mattson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:agmattson@gmail.com">agmattson@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Alicia,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
motion as passed by the Convention in 2014 was:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Be
it resolved that the assembled delegates of the
2014 Libertarian National Convention hereby call
for the creation of an International Association
of Libertarian Parties.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">And
whereas, our outgoing chair, Geoffrey Neale, has
pursued this effort, we recommend that he be
appointed by the LNC as a representative to begin
discussions with our counterparts in other
countries.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I
don’t see any specificity in this resolution at
all as to the LNC reviewing anything. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Dr.
Lark is a member of the Facebook group where all
communications, including announcement of the
conference, and the charter, were distributed.
All of the countries that have already ratified
the charter, and those intending to, have access
to the group. By the way, Arvin Vohra and Nick
Sarwark are also on the same group. I have no clue
whether or not these individuals have
notifications turned on or off, or whether any
have visited the group page, but the information
that has been seen by Belgium, Russia, France,
Germany, Italy, Tunisia, Australia, Brazil,
Argentina, etc. and did not slip their notice.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">As
to all of the rest, you spent way too much time
writing.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">There
is no organization yet. This is a STARTUP. We
cannot consult with a professional (paid)
parliamentarian because we don’t exist, don’t have
a bank account, etc. This first meeting in person
is the meeting in David Nolan’s living room that
started the LP in the first place. I don’t know
just how many of these things they worked out that
first day, but it was nowhere near as large as
your list. If they had to do this first, the LP
would not exist today.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">The
reason we are meeting in person is exactly so that
we can work out these issues face to face. The
reason why the charter is skeletal in nature is to
define a scope of the organization as a basis, and
add the necessary muscle – face to face. If we
had to get agreement before the organization
exists, what does Robert’s say about how to count
the votes? Can Robert’s apply to a non-entity. How
could we weigh votes from parties unlikely to
join, who are looking for reasons to say no,
versus parties that are trying to make it work? If
the LNC votes not to join, why should anyone else
give a damn what their concerns are?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It
will cost the LNC and the LP nothing to join, and
they can leave if sufficient progress is not made
in short order, for whatever reason you like.
Heck you can join on March 6<sup>th</sup>, and
leave on March 9<sup>th</sup>. If things take a
distinctly negative slant, I’ll be holding the
door for the LNC and the LP. The LNC can also pass
along their concerns if they vote to join, and
their representative will raise their concerns at
the meeting.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">However,
it has been made clear to me that the creation of
the IALP will proceed with or without the USLP.
If it is without, it would be a shame. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Perfection
is ALWAYS the enemy of the good. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">However,
I will be passing your list, which you admit is
just a first glance, on to the group. I think it
will serve a very valuable purpose. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Geoffrey
Neale</span></p>
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