<div dir="ltr">I have had hotel and plane reservations for a few weeks now. The site went live, I believe, a couple weeks ago. It still seems premature to expect state chairs to know how many are going in May, but I certainly have begun promoting the event in my state and I hope to get commitments soon, at least from candidates and board members. <div><br>By the same logic, I deny that it is 'disgusting' that national has not yet 'automatically' begun to promote an event in May. In addition, it seems logical to me that, with an event of this magnitude, staff would consult with the organizers before promoting it so as to avoid misstatements or other mistakes. I would be quite surprised and unhappy if we just started running ads or something without communication with the LPNV and other involved parties. I expect, if we had done that, we'd be seeing angry comments on statechairs again - and for good reason. </div><div><br></div><div>But, let's get past that and ask a simple question. Are we, or are we not, going to work together to run serious candidates for winnable offices, and to elect libertarians to public office in order to move public policy in a libertarian direction? That is what I wish to do (although as a board member I primarily want to govern and serve on committees) and what I think this party, national and affiliates, should be doing. That means I agree with Jason about "chemtrails paper candidates" - although I might point out that LPUS runs 2 candidates every 4 years, and those candidates have not been paper candidates or chemtrails candidates. It also means that I am excited to see an event that is geared towards teaching people in this party skills in organizing, campaigning, and governing - if we're going to elect people to office, we'd be well served to make sure they know how to do things when they get there - and I thank the organizers for putting it together. I'm also glad to see an elected officials panel scheduled for this event (disclaimer: I've communicated to the organizers my interest in being on this panel, and in giving a break-out class on 'the art of governance') which is not run opposite, say, LNC elections. </div><div><br></div><div>I hope that everyone in this party can get on board with these being important things to teach, and electing people to office being an important thing to do (although I know not everyone agrees it should be the highest priority.) Taking a break from my praise for this event, which I am excited to attend, I would note that the statechairs email listed many things being done, all of them great - but none of them mentioned electoral politics. If affiliates want to focus on other things (and an event to train candidates nationwide is a great thing to focus on) or act as a lobbying organization, so be it, but it's not quite the same goal as electing people to office. I don't care what affiliates do, but I'd encourage this board to shift our focus away from the multiple things we focus on, and towards encouraging affiliates to elect people to office, and building and sustaining an infrastructure of support that makes that possible. We've already taken a great step in that direction, as urged by our chair, through our involvement in ballot access fights and the commitment to stick with fights we get involved with. Affiliates need to know that, when we say we're in, we're in, and we will stick with them until the end. I am proud, for instance, that we stood with NY through their legal battles. </div><div><br></div><div>I also wish we could agree on this goal, and then pursue it in unity with our affiliates, without having a continuous pissing contest between affiliates and national. We can do better, but so can affiliates that find themselves in attack mode all too frequently. </div><div><br></div><div>Joshua Katz</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz<div><br></div><div>Region 8 (Region of Badassdom) Alternate</div><div>Libertarian National Committee</div><div><br>Chair, Libertarian Party of Connecticut</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Nicholas Sarwark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chair@lp.org" target="_blank">chair@lp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>To clarify, there have been at least 18 emails to the state chairs list since January 15 that mention LPEX, an official announcement from the California LP of their convention sent February 2 that also announces LPEX, an article published in the January LP News promoting LPEX, articles on IPR about LPEX, and publicly available announcements on the LPEX website ( <a href="http://www.lpex.org/news" target="_blank">http://www.lpex.org/news</a> ) posted on February 12.<br><br></div>Maybe all of those announcements weren't official and "none of the state chairs know about LPEX" as Brett claims in his email, but it's not from lack of publicity and LPEX is not some kind of under wraps project that Wes Benedict let out of the bag by asking the state chairs who is planning to attend.<br><br></div>-Nick<br><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Scott L. <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scott73@earthlink.net" target="_blank">scott73@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">This is relevant because
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">Mr. Pojunis sent a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">I just verified with Brett
that instead of calling or e-mailing Mr. Pojunis, Mr. Benedict chose to
immediately post the e-mail below<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">Although I would not
use the word “disgusted”, I still sympathize with Mr. Weinman’s
comment. The registration page for LPEX went live only in the last 48
hours, so it is extremely premature to publicly ask questions like “</span></font>Are
you going?” <font face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana">and </span></font> “How many from your state do
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">Normally, I would
expect the ED to call the LPEX organizer privately, and ask these same
questions. If the ED did not get satisfactory answers, then, at that
point, it might have been appropriate to send the e-mail below to the State
Chairs e-mail list.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">And yes, I know I am giving
the RNC and the DNC access to a couple of e-mails from our State Chair’s
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:statechairs-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">statechairs-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, February 26, 2015
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Brett H. Pojunis<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> <u></u><a href="mailto:statechairs@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">statechairs@hq.lp.org</a><u></u>;
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="1" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial">Wes, I can't even describe how disgusted I am with that
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana">First, I called Wes and sent him an email AFTER speaking
with our National Chair who suggested I reach out to Wes to work out Nationals
involvement, if any. There has not been a full public announcement to the state
chairs nor do the state chairs know about LPEX. Therefore, to ask questions
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National is absolutely beyond me. The LNC promotes events like SFL, Free and
Equal and many other NON-Libertarian organizations. So not promoting an LSLA,
LPNevada and LP California event is absurd.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana">There is no reason to explain the financing, unless of
course you did the same with SFL, Free and Equal etc. Here is what I will tell
you. I have personally taken the risk and personally signed for this event. I
have made a big financial commitment to produce LPEX. No organization is on the
hook financially, nor any risk associated with LPEX other than me personally.
The LNC has no involvement at this time so how could there possibly be any risk
associated with the LNC? <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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publicly available as it is in the minutes. In return there will be fundraising
opportunities for the LSLA during LPEX. Unlike in the past, I will be
responsible for covering the costs of speakers, trainers, the venue, etc., not
the LSLA. <u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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conference is to provide much needed training for Libertarians. Once I get the
information out to the state chairs (probably by tomorrow) I would hope state
chairs would take advantage of LPEX.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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begin with. The LNC and staff have more pressing issues to address such as our
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Chairman of the Libertarian Party of <u></u><u></u>Nevada<u></u><u></u><font color="black"><span style="color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></font></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Wes Benedict <<a>wes.benedict@lp.org</a>>
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Brett Pojunis has asked for my help promoting LPEX. See the note below. My
inclination is to help, but first I wanted to get some feedback from the state
chairs on this.<br>
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Are you going?<br>
How many from your state do you expect to go?<br>
Do you plan to have your state party email your state database about this?<br>
Do you mind if LPHQ sends emails to promote this?<br>
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I don't understand the financing for this project. I'll be asking Brett to
explain a bit more about it in writing to the state chairs and the LNC. If
turnout is low, is the LSLA at risk financially? If turnout is great, does the
LSLA benefit? Who else is at risk? My understanding it that there is and should
be no financial risk to the Libertarian National Committee. I'm not certain
where I read it or about the amounts, but I think I've read that the LSLA has
already contributed around $7,000 for this event.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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Director<br>
</span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size:7.5pt">Libertarian National
Committee, Inc.<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">New address: <u></u><u></u>1444 Duke St.<u></u>, <u></u>Alexandria<u></u>,
<u></u>VA<u></u> <u></u>22314<u></u><u></u></span></b><br>
<a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a>wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a>
@LPNational<br>
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Brett H. Pojunis <a><brett@pojunis.com></a><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana">Could you please give me a call when you get a chance. I
would like to see if we can get National's assistance next week with promotion
for LPEX.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Best,<br>
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Brett H. Pojunis<br>
Chairman of the Libertarian Party of <u></u><u></u>Nevada<u></u><u></u><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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