<div dir="ltr">To address Dr. Feldman's questions:<div>1. Email ballots are tricky animals. Where we have no particular rules of order, we do our best to approximate our parliamentary authority. The closest such approximation here is: a point of order was raised; the chair issued a ruling; an appeal was made. The ruling of the chair does, indeed, stand unless there is a successful appeal. However, what happens when a member appeals the ruling of the chair is that the chair will state the question as "shall the ruling of the chair be sustained?" As a result, a yes vote is to sustain the ruling of the chair, and a no vote is to overturn it. Therefore, what's really going on is that the appeal is resulting in a vote on the question of sustaining the chair. In dealing with the rules for email balloting, where parliamentary motions are tricky, it makes more sense to state the motion in its effective form - had this been a meeting, and there been an appeal, the vote would have been on sustaining the ruling, hence, the question is stated that way here. </div><div>2. The bylaws state:</div><div><br></div><div> The National Committee shall appoint new officers and members-at-large if vacancies occur,
such officers and members-at-large to complete the term of the office vacated. </div><div><br></div><div>They do not prescribe the means by which the LNC is to do so. An election would not be wrong, and would be reasonable under other circumstances, as was, in my opinion, the case at our last meeting. However, a motion to appoint is also not out of order or wrong, and appears to me to be most reasonable here. The LNC has made its preference clear; the issue at stake now is making sure our rules are being followed.</div><div><br></div><div>3. I don't think such an interpretation is reasonable. How does one underpay for a package while, in the exact same payment, making a donation in the precise amount of the underpayment? If I go out for dinner (as I will shortly) and my meal costs $20, and I pay $25 (counting tip), can the restaurant decide that, actually, I paid only $15 and tipped $10, and now owe the restaurant another $5? Can they decide that my entire payment was the tip, and that I owe $20?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz<div>Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Marc Allan Feldman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc@openivo.com" target="_blank">marc@openivo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"> I vote aye to sustain the ruling of the chair.<br><br>I apologize if I missed relevant discussion, and I am no parliamentarian but:<br><br>1. I thought the ruling of the chair stands unless there is a motion to appeal and a vote to overturn it. I would think a motion to sustain would be unnecessary and to have no affect. Has a motion been made to overturn the ruling? If the motion to sustain fails, would we need another motion to overturn the ruling?<br><br>2. If the ruling is overturned, is the email ballot for election acceptable? If this really is an election, wouldn't it be required to open to nominations? Shouldn't it be required to have alternatives, rounds of voting, at least including NOTA?<br><br>3. I believe that at the time of his election, he thought he was a member, we thought he was a member. I would say that he paid for membership, but underpaid for the convention package. Could we charge him another $25 to finish paying for the convention package and move on?<br><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 3:39 PM, James Lark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwl3s@virginia.edu" target="_blank">jwl3s@virginia.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
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Dear colleagues:<br>
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I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as
Region 5 representative to vote "no" on the motion.<br>
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As always, thanks for your work for liberty.<br>
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Take care,<br>
Jim<br>
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James W. Lark, III<br>
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition<br>
University of Virginia<br>
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Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee<br>
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<div>We have an electronic mail ballot.<br>
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<b><u>Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by May 8, 2015
at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.<br>
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<u>Co-Sponsors:</u> Mattson, Olsen, Wiener, Hagan<br>
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<u>Motion:</u> To sustain the Chair's ruling that a
person's purchase of a convention package in the prior
twelve months<br>
meets the requirement of Bylaws Article 5.3 that a
sustaining member must have "given at least $25 to the<br>
Party in the prior twelve months"<br>
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<u>Note about Effect</u>:<br>
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<div>Because this is phrased as a motion to sustain the
chair's ruling, a "yes" vote means that the purchase of a
convention package should count toward sustaining
membership. A "no" vote means that the purchase of a
convention package should NOT count towards sustaining
membership.<br>
<br>
Alicia Mattson<br>
LNC Secretary<br>
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