<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4456">Unfortunately, I am not planning on visiting Disneyworld (or Sea World) unless we are going to hold the LNC meeting at Snow White's Castle?. I will be staying at the Claraton Inn which is just a few feet away from the Rosen and is $65/night, compared to the Rosen's discounted price of $95/night, Of course, both of these you have to add their taxes and service fees to the room rate. </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4595">While I can afford the higher price hotels, I do not like paying top dollar just for a bed to crash on for the night, and in fact on Sunday will check in at an airport hotel (La Quinta) that is even cheaper, and offers a free shuttle to the airport Monday morning which is just a few minutes away. This also means I can return my rental car ($42 for the weekend) on Sunday as well.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4802">While I enjoy traveling about the world, for LNC meetings we not only have our own expenses, but the Party has a good deal of staff expenses as well as the many hours of staff time to organize these meetings.. So, maybe instead of our traveling circus, we should just pick out a location (or 2) with the best air connections and cheapest meeting costs and stick with that. I would not be adverse with just having meetings in the DC area all the time, and use the travel money to send a National official to the various state conventions, which would probably be a more productive use of Party money? </span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_5192">For the purpose of just doing a business meeting, a $29 room at Super 20, and a seat in the local library meeting room would not bother me at all. Disneyland vacation trips I can always do when I have more time and interest in doing so. I do not look at LNC meetings as vacation trips.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346" dir="ltr"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_5292">Speaking of rental cars, if anyone needs a free ride from the airport 10 p.m. Friday, or to the airport area Sunday, let me know.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_5069">For what they are worth, them is my thoughts on the issue anyway.</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4346"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_5193">Roland ND</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4350"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4349"> <div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4348"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4455"> <font size="2" face="Arial" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4347"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Scott L. <scott73@earthlink.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> lnc-business@hq.lp.org <br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4625"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4624">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 12, 2015 1:17 AM<br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4623"><span style="font-weight: bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4622">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Lnc-business] Stand in 2016 Pres & VP candidates<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4351"><br><div id="yiv5921670099"><style>
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<div class="yiv5921670099MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4355"><font size="2" color="black" face="Verdana" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_5291"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_5290">Mr. Riemers:</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv5921670099MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4478"><font size="2" color="black" face="Verdana" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4477"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4476">When you get to Orlando , ask one of the members
of the Convention Organizing Committee about Helms-Briscoe. I think they
perfom the “travel agent” function you are asking
about. I am pretty sure they are helping us select a site for the
2018 Convention. I am not sure if using them is worth it for the 20 or so
room nights we generate during an LNC Session.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv5921670099MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4522"><font size="2" color="black" face="Verdana" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4521"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4520">One can certainly find
hotel rooms that are under $100 per night, and have free breakfasts. But
such a beast does not exist in the California
cities that have decent air travel connections. I doubt the LNC would be
willing to meet in Visalia or Redding , which have a few commercial flights
and most likely cheap hotel rooms. </span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv5921670099MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4525"><font size="2" color="black" face="Verdana" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4524"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4523">One of the things you
implicitly agree to when you join the LNC is that sometimes we will have
in-person meetings in hotels where the room cost will be near the USA Average,
which I think was around $125 per night when I quoted it a few weeks ago.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv5921670099MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4528"><font size="2" color="black" face="Verdana" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4527"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4526">If this board was
consistently agreeing to have LNC Sessions in hotels that cost us $180 or $250
per night, then I would agree that we should be looking for cheaper quarters.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv5921670099MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4598"><font size="2" color="black" face="Verdana" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4597"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4596">The Rosen Centre –
$95 per night (IIRC) with a free breakfast, and only 3 miles from DisneyWorld , is about the best deal you are ever going to
see during this LNC term.</span></font></div>
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Scott Lieberman</span></font></div>
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<div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yiv5921670099yqt0449409756" id="yiv5921670099yqt70182"><div class="yiv5921670099MsoNormal" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4599"><b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4612"><font size="2" face="Tahoma" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4611"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4610">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4609"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4608"> Lnc-business
[mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">On
Behalf Of </span></b>Roland Riemers<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, November 11, 2015
9:51 PM<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> lnc-business@hq.lp.org<br clear="none">
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Lnc-business] Stand
in 2016 Pres & VP candidates</span></font></div></div>
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<div class="yiv5921670099MsoNormal" style="background:white;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4606"><font size="4" color="black" face="Helvetica" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4605"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1447340114487_4604">In
regards to the printer, I had not yet read the costs of the printer when
I replied (the problem with emails is we get the newest one first, and we
have to read all the emails to fully understand what has taken place).
In this instance, $11k for a printer seems overly expensive, and I
personally would never have spent that much. But, I do not know who made
that decision or why. But even in my own organization I have had workers
piss away money for this or that tool or object because "I needed to get
the job done", but if they had taken a few seconds to ask me,
I could have handed it to them out of our shop or supplies. Making
stupid decisions is just part of human nature. I do think we need to look
at the entire picture. While costly, maybe the delux printer
allowed them to double their work or it really increase our membership or cash
inflow. I am a realestate investor in real life, and I always tell
people I do not care how much a property costs, I mostly want to
know how much it will make me. So, while costly, if the printer is
paying for itself, then who cares.</span></font></div>
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<div class="yiv5921670099MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><font size="4" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica;color:black;">Speaking
of costs, one of my concerns is the high costs of these LNC meetings and
also our 2016 convention. I also dislike seeing our DC staff tied up for
weeks scheduling out an event. I would suggest we instead put that job
onto a commercial travel agent in the DC area. They could not only
arrange our site, but also our transportation to the site, and probably at a
cheaper price then what our staff comes up with. (I am assuming of course staff
is not currently using a travel agent?). I believe our next LNC meeting
is likely going to be in California ?
I would therefore suggest we try using a DC travel agent for this.
My consideration for a site would be that it be at a hotel where the rooms cost
less then $100; it has a free airport shuttle, and a free breakfast, and
a meeting room that is reasonably priced.</span></font></div>
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mentioned a stand-in candidate for Presdient. Actually, if we don't
get anything better then what I have read about so far, I would seriously
like to see somebody like Redpath take up the torch. Bill is cool and
collected and intelligent and besides Redpath would be a great name to have on
a ballot, and certainly he would make a better debater or president then
Hillary or Donald Duck.</span></font></div>
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ND</span></font></div>
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